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Old 01-02-2018, 05:51 PM  
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Opening day lineup

Fowler RF
Pham CF
Carpenter 3B
Ozuna LF
Martinez 1B
Molina C
Dejong SS
Wong 2B
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Matheny fired 07/14/2018




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Old 11-19-2018, 11:04 AM   #4036
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I'm excited to see Donaldson play 70ish games for the Cards next year. He'll spend a lot on the DL of course but those few he's out there he'll play hard!
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Old 11-19-2018, 11:21 AM   #4038
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I'm excited to see Donaldson play 70ish games for the Cards next year. He'll spend a lot on the DL of course but those few he's out there he'll play hard!
The Cardinals could've had Donaldson for free and didn't bite.

Honestly, I think Donaldson may even be shooting too high and I think he'd be a disastrous signing.

I'm thinking Mike Moustakas and Oliver Perez. They'll dabble in Andrew Miller and Adam Ottavino but in the end, they'll do nothing of substance. They'll make 'competitive' offers to Harper and Machado that have some sort of poison pill in them that makes them certain to be rejected and they'll tell the fans they tried.

Then they'll turn the focus to things that have nothing to do with the talent they've assembled...again.
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Old 11-19-2018, 11:23 AM   #4039
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The Cardinals could've had Donaldson for free and didn't bite.

Honestly, I think Donaldson may even be shooting too high and I think he'd be a disastrous signing.

I'm thinking Mike Moustakas and Oliver Perez. They'll dabble in Andrew Miller and Adam Ottavino but in the end, they'll do nothing of substance. They'll make 'competitive' offers to Harper and Machado that have some sort of poison pill in them that makes them certain to be rejected and they'll tell the fans they tried.

Then they'll turn the focus to things that have nothing to do with the talent they've assembled...again.
True, sadly.

Sadly, I think Ottavino and or Miller would both be great signings. I wouldn't even be upset with Mouse if you could get someone other than Carpenter to play first but well, I'm not overly excited.
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They have sufficient payroll room to ensure that Bryce Harper ISN'T 'all their eggs'.

But now you've heard the sales pitch, fellas. When we don't sign Harper and instead sign Fowler, Cecil and Leake for the same amount, it'll be because we didn't want to 'put our eggs in one basket'.

I mean nevermind roster limitations or the depth of JAGs we already have on this roster. And to hell with the fact that the organizations that are actually winning things are adopting the stars/scrubs model and paying for greatness while letting guys like Marwin Gonzalez go (and trading for Aledmys Diaz to give you roughly the same production). Nah - we need to buck the trends being set by winning organizations.

Let's keep spending big money on mediocre players - it's working out really well.
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believe it when we see it. Open the teams wallet. This is Missouri, Show-me. His franchise is worth almost $2 BILLION these days. Didn’t he make almost all the purchase price of the Cardinals immediately back when he sold the parking garages?
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believe it when we see it. Open the teams wallet. This is Missouri, Show-me. His franchise is worth almost $2 BILLION these days. Didn’t he make almost all the purchase price of the Cardinals immediately back when he sold the parking garages?
Yes he did. Something like $120 million of the original $150 million purchase price. He got the team for peanuts and for at least a 5 year stretch there he was setting MLB records for annual operating profits; swinging $70 million+ annual profits for years.

DeWitt is sitting on billions of dollars - literally billions - in franchise equity.

But our big announcements are to announce team fashion ideas. We trot Harrison Bader out there to model laundry because the ladies think he's just adorable; I guess somebody had to replace ol' Mikey Dreamboat, eh?

This team gives zero ****s about winning baseball past its impact on the bottom line. And they ONLY care about it to the extent of the bottom line. If winning a championship requires a financial outlay that yields a $50 million profit but playing .500 baseball can be done for $20 million less at a revenue hit of only $10 million, they'll take the .500 baseball and the $60 million in profit over the $50 million and a trophy.

DeWitt got his ballpark, then he got ballpark village. Once the cable deal got signed, he proceeded to give zero ****s about winning. He has his shrine and his license to print money, now he just wants to make sure he keeps enough 'fan favorites' around to keep the merch flying and enough nostaliga cases to take the rank and file fans minds off the fact that this team is getting lapped by the smartest organizations in baseball. Shit, it's falling behind the average ones.

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Sounds like the DBacks are trying to package Greinke with him.
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Sounds like the DBacks are trying to package Greinke with him.
isnt Goldy going to be 32 when he becomes a free agent? The decline already started? Bat speed, velocity off the bat etc? What’s the point of a one year rental? If it’s not, why sign a declining and aging hitter for multiple years? AND make your defense worse by playing Carp at 3B.
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isnt Goldy going to be 32 when he becomes a free agent? The decline already started? Bat speed, velocity off the bat etc? What’s the point of a one year rental? If it’s not, why sign a declining and aging hitter for multiple years? AND make your defense worse by playing Carp at 3B.
Cardinals are probably interested because it keeps money in the pockets of the owners.

Another reason would be that hes a premier player that could sell people on making one last run before there are serious questions when it comes to tearing it all down.
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