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**DaFace** · 09:37 AM

Marcellus's thread was clearly a lot of attention whoring, but when it comes down to it, he has a point. The word "true fan" has become a catch-all for anyone who doesn't agree with a person on here about XXX player or XXX move that the Chiefs have made.

The issue I have with it is that it's increasingly become a straw man insult that doesn't even make sense. Discussion around here lately reminds me of discussions in D.C. where every issue has to be black and white and anyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot. The reality is that there are opinions all over the spectrum and that nothing is ever black and white. I'd think there are at least five different categories of Chiefs fans these days:

1 - True "homers" who will cheer for the team and applaud every move they make unconditionally. These types almost don't even exist on ChiefsPlanet (though people like to act like they do). These are only a small portion of the Chiefs fanbase, and they look like this.

2 - Optimists who will always cheer for the Chiefs, but have a sense of realism about it. They probably cheered Cassel for the first few years, but reluctantly joined the SOC bandwagon last year when it was clear that there was just no hope in saving the team under Cassel.

3 - Fans who try to keep a balanced approach. They don't get too excited about drafting a RT at #1 or trading for Alex Smith, but they believe that it's likely the team will at least be improved this year if not dramatically so. Their approach is a "wait and see" reaction, though they'll be quick to criticize if things don't work out.

4 - Pessimists who are skeptical that the Chiefs are going to be competitive any time soon, but who do try and give the team some benefit of the doubt under the new leadership. They're probably not happy about Alex Smith being our QB, but are grudgingly willing to see what he can do.

5 - Total naysayers who have had it with the team for the past 40 years and will refuse to be optimistic until the Chiefs find some real success (playoff wins at a minimum, and Super Bowl contention ideally). They believe that the front office should be constantly scrutinized given that their predecessors were given a long leash and screwed it all up.

Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to see where people would put themselves on the spectrum. It seems like most threads these days are battles between 5's and 1's, but I'd bet that those types are actually pretty rare around here. My dream would be that we can one day have discussions that are dominated by 2's, 3's, and 4's, but who knows if that can ever happen until the Chiefs start showing success.

Discus.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-03-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

If guys like Sweet Dick Willie and Clay hate this franchise so much and talk shit on them, then why don't they just leave?

Just take a season off instead of regurgitating the same old shit.

I swear to God women aren't as bad as you two. They at least let an issue die after a few days or weeks. They don't bring this shit up almost every ****ing day for months on end.

Clay has an inner homer waiting to pop out. One of the biggest in board history. Now he trolls. Sweet Daddy is an enigma. Hard to tell if he even likes the team.

**J Diddy** · 08-03-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby

Yeah except we can't trade Alex back and get the 2nd round draft pick back. Hunt is worse.

Aren't you a Dolphins fan or some shit?

Ace Gunner · 08-03-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

The thing I think irritates most is that this was one of the few chances KC will ever have to go into a season with the best available QB (Alex, for most) and as well as having the ability to draft the best QB prospect in the draft. The chiefs had the chance to do both and instead, did not.

fair point, but you have a job & a team to root for and these are not mutually exclusive. Dorsey /Reid haven't even had a chance to scrimmage their team and folks are ready to burn their house down.

Imo the Chiefs had a chance to get RG3 last season and passed it up. That was the big burn, not Geno/Smiff. Imo Geno isn't going to be able to play NFL level ball for a couple seasons, if at all. He's your average NFL QB prospect, not an elite 1.1 or even first rounder. It isn't even close, either. He's got a hot head, and I've said in the past about him that I like a guy with a lil fire, but it has to be part of a talented package in order to be considered viable at this level -- for example, Ryan Leaf has fire, and well.. so, it takes more than spirited fire to play NFL ball.

The rest we've beaten to death. He fell. folks don't like that. cyber riot ensues.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-03-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

Aren't you a Dolphins fan or some shit?

Jaguars

Dinny Bossa Nova · 08-03-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Clay has an inner homer waiting to pop out. One of the biggest in board history. Now he trolls. Sweet Daddy is an enigma. Hard to tell if he even likes the team.

If GoChiefs was a mountain, Lil Chiefy(SDH) would be a tree growing off of his shoulder. Sort of like a pathetic version of a pirate and his parrot.

Dinny

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-03-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinny Blues

If GoChiefs was a mountain, Lil Chiefy(SDH) would be a tree growing off of his shoulder. Sort of like a pathetic version of a pirate and his parrot.

Dinny

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-03-2013, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinny Blues

If GoChiefs was a mountain, Lil Chiefy(SDH) would be a tree growing off of his shoulder. Sort of like a pathetic version of a pirate and his parrot.

Dinny

The IMPORTANT thing here, is that you have CLEARLY adopted and embraced "Lil Chiefy".

So up yours, you Mr. Natural-loving mother****er. I WIN.

**Baby Lee** · 08-03-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

If guys like Sweet Dick Willie and Clay hate this franchise so much and talk shit on them, then why don't they just leave?

Just take a season off instead of regurgitating the same old shit.

I swear to God women aren't as bad as you two. They at least let an issue die after a few days or weeks. They don't bring this shit up almost every ****ing day for months on end.

And on the seventh day, the Lord rested, . . . but SDH JUST KEPT BITCHING!!!

Dinny Bossa Nova · 08-03-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

And on the seventh day, the Lord rested, . . . but SDH JUST KEPT BITCHING!!!

SDH is an acronym for Shouldn't Do Heroin, amongst other things.

Dinny

**Easy 6** · 08-03-2013, 08:07 PM

This term is so played out and tired, people should really just stop using it as some kind of Grand Slam against those they disagree with.

By now, 99.9% of people here have had their heart broken enough, have had the light shined on them enough, have changed their preconceived notions enough, have renounced blind loyalty enough... to not be called that anymore.

Its has outlived its relevance, its all just shades of grey at this point.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-03-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

This term is so played out and tired, people should really just stop using it as some kind of Grand Slam against those they disagree with.

By now, 99.9% of people here have had their heart broken enough, have had the light shined on them enough, have changed their preconceived notions enough, have renounced blind loyalty enough... to not be called that anymore.

Its has outlived its relevance, its all just shades of grey at this point.

Which is why Lil Chiefy will rise

Hammock Parties · 08-03-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinny Blues

If GoChiefs was a mountain

I can explode into a fiery, lava-gushing inferno at any moment.

Best watch yourself.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 08-03-2013, 08:18 PM

The Super Bowl Fairy is a ****.

**Easy 6** · 08-03-2013, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Which is why Lil Chiefy will rise

Ya know, there was a period of a month or so that i hardly got on here and i have to admit, i dont know what in the hell Lil Chiefy is... is it a made up term to slam homers, is it an actual poster who quickly flamed out?

I just dont know...

**Baby Lee** · 08-03-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Ya know, there was a period of a month or so that i hardly got on here and i have to admit, i dont know what in the hell Lil Chiefy is... is it a made up term to slam homers, is it an actual poster who quickly flamed out?

I just dont know...

SDH posted a thread announcing his brilliant term.

View Poll Results: How would you classify yourself?
1 - Homer	7	2.44%
2 - Optimist	85	29.62%
3 - Balanced	116	40.42%
4 - Pessimist	67	23.34%
5 - Naysayer	8	2.79%
Generic Alternate Zresponse	4	1.39%
Voters: 287. You may not vote on this poll

05-03-2013, 09:30 AM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $2106899	Let's talk about "true fans" Marcellus's thread was clearly a lot of attention whoring, but when it comes down to it, he has a point. The word "true fan" has become a catch-all for anyone who doesn't agree with a person on here about XXX player or XXX move that the Chiefs have made. The issue I have with it is that it's increasingly become a straw man insult that doesn't even make sense. Discussion around here lately reminds me of discussions in D.C. where every issue has to be black and white and anyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot. The reality is that there are opinions all over the spectrum and that nothing is ever black and white. I'd think there are at least five different categories of Chiefs fans these days: 1 - True "homers" who will cheer for the team and applaud every move they make unconditionally. These types almost don't even exist on ChiefsPlanet (though people like to act like they do). These are only a small portion of the Chiefs fanbase, and they look like this. 2 - Optimists who will always cheer for the Chiefs, but have a sense of realism about it. They probably cheered Cassel for the first few years, but reluctantly joined the SOC bandwagon last year when it was clear that there was just no hope in saving the team under Cassel. 3 - Fans who try to keep a balanced approach. They don't get too excited about drafting a RT at #1 or trading for Alex Smith, but they believe that it's likely the team will at least be improved this year if not dramatically so. Their approach is a "wait and see" reaction, though they'll be quick to criticize if things don't work out. 4 - Pessimists who are skeptical that the Chiefs are going to be competitive any time soon, but who do try and give the team some benefit of the doubt under the new leadership. They're probably not happy about Alex Smith being our QB, but are grudgingly willing to see what he can do. 5 - Total naysayers who have had it with the team for the past 40 years and will refuse to be optimistic until the Chiefs find some real success (playoff wins at a minimum, and Super Bowl contention ideally). They believe that the front office should be constantly scrutinized given that their predecessors were given a long leash and screwed it all up. Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to see where people would put themselves on the spectrum. It seems like most threads these days are battles between 5's and 1's, but I'd bet that those types are actually pretty rare around here. My dream would be that we can one day have discussions that are dominated by 2's, 3's, and 4's, but who knows if that can ever happen until the Chiefs start showing success. Discus. Last edited by DaFace; 05-03-2013 at 09:37 AM..
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