College athletes on their way to a union.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Wow RT @CEmmaScout: @CAPAssociation wins its case at the NLRB. College athletes on their way to a union.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 26, 2014

[Xanathol]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

if you're the NCAA, stop the bullshit of calling yourself a nonprofit then whoring out these players and pretending all of that money goes back into the schools. And lift these ridiculous rules around players getting paid for legit activities. If they want to find a good job to support themselves, let them do it. If they want to sell off their own stuff? Let them do it. Hell, it might teach them the responsibility they badly lack today.

I guess you missed the numbers that show the athletic departments as a whole aren't clearing the amount of money claimed. People focus on what college football takes in but not what it and a number of other sports cost. As shown, Missouri was at the bottom of the list in 2012 @ $16M in the red.

Players can already get jobs in the off season, typically paying much more than other students would make for the same job, all within the rules.

Selling their stuff is a horrible idea. Random booster would ensure recruits that if they attend XYZ University, they will buy $100,000 of their autographs, for example. College football is then nothing but professional ball. If they want that, go pro out of high school (Arena, Semi, or special NFL exemption).

Bottomline, if you don't like playing under the college rules, then don't - no one forces these players into college ball.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Xanathol

I guess you missed the numbers that show the athletic departments as a whole aren't clearing the amount of money claimed. People focus on what college football takes in but not what it and a number of other sports cost. As shown, Missouri was at the bottom of the list in 2012 @ $16M in the red.

Players can already get jobs in the off season, typically paying much more than other students would make for the same job, all within the rules.

Selling their stuff is a horrible idea. Random booster would ensure recruits that if they attend XYZ University, they will buy $100,000 of their autographs, for example. College football is then nothing but professional ball. If they want that, go pro out of high school (Arena, Semi, or special NFL exemption).

Bottomline, if you don't like playing under the college rules, then don't - no one forces these players into college ball.

I can assure you Mizzou is not actually in the red because of football. If you don't believe me, give them the death penalty and see if that affects the university's endowment any. Colleges are not struggling to make ends meet because of football. And lots and lots of people except athletes are profiting off these players.

Athletes have major restrictions on the kinds of jobs they can get and how much they are paid, and the amount of work and time that goes into football makes that even harder to do.

I think it's silly to claim that college football players should stop playing the game if they don't like the rules. What rules? We are talking about a nonprofit sport that doesn't pay their employees, and then has masses of people profiting off their work. This conversation wouldn't be happening if there weren't people abusing the privilege of getting these players to work for free (and yes, I get that "free" includes tuition and basic expenses).

[BeeHo]

Let it play out. It's quite interesting. The players that bring in the big money should get a piece of the pie. But how much? How long would then they be allowed to play?

Then the smaller programs and less popular sports may ask for unreasonable amounts of compensation.

I go to grad school at U. Kentucky and there were these huge posters of Anthony Davis. Wondered how much he got people to buy merchandise and he got not a single penny. Granted, he was banking on being drafted first round.

will the unionization of college sports self regulate and find a balance? Or cripple it entirely?



EXCITING.

[BeeHo]

Originally Posted by Jimmya

It's really a bad deal. Had some women on Fox Sports talking about they will sue if they don't get paid the same as football players.

they're being ridiculous. assume gymnastics women getting paid the same as best college football programs, and logistically their demands force the gymnastic program to close. with enough programs forcing to close wouldn't then a school lose it's division status or membership in their conference?

cray cray

[Chiefspants]

If I managed to publish a novel, should KU have ownership of the publication?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

If I managed to publish a novel, should KU have ownership of the publication?

Only if you were on scholarship to do so and enrolled in a program to write a novel or collection of other works and this was made explicitly clear and signed by both parties... I guess

[BeeHo]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

If I managed to publish a novel, should KU have ownership of the publication?

in research, if you're getting a MS or PhD, your work is not solely your own since you used equipment, resources and mentors.

i guess for novels...i don't know. hmmm. better to drop out of school first before publishing.

[Smed1065]

I love the college level cause they get ****ed for a degree that sucks 9/10 but they get a degree.

[ForeverChiefs58]

It's all about the money, and the money will ruin it all

[Mosbonian]

It would be an interesting study on the comments here to find out:

1) Of those in favor of unionizing, how many were college athletes?

2) How many on here commenting wonder if the decision might also trigger a lawsuit to make the NCAA cough up money from the past that it made on athletes?

[WhawhaWhat]

The NBA should convert the D-League into an under 22 league and go around the NCAA altogether now. Put teams in cities that don't have NBA teams like KC, Louisville and even cities that do like NY, LA and Charlotte (barely has an NBA team anyway).

NFL could do the same thing.

[13and3]

Simply put, All you haters are just jealous.

[13and3]

If I had to profile the average football or basketball college athlete, a tall, muscular, young black man, tattoos, sagging pants, unkept hair and or braids. . His hobbies are rapping, playing xbox, banging hot chicks, handing out with his old hoodlum friends, and maybe smoking a little weed.

The profile of the average college sports fan is the exact opposite, white dude, decent job, doesn't sag pants, has to work hard every day, occasional drinker, not totally immersed in hip hop culture.

These two people have nothing in common, I would venture to say if your average college alumni saw a group of these young men on the plaza or the zoo and did not recognize them they would cross the street as they approached.

My point is of course you want these young men to be broke, it is the only way you can rationalize your support of them. If they make as much or more than you, then they turn into professional athletes and the innocence we like to pretend they have is taken away. And all we are left with is the fact we are rooting for someone who is different then us and has it much better than us in almost every way, its unacceptable and it sucks to be you.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by 13and3

If I had to profile the average football or basketball college athlete, a tall, muscular, young black man, tattoos, sagging pants, unkept hair and or braids. . His hobbies are rapping, playing xbox, banging hot chicks, handing out with his old hoodlum friends, and maybe smoking a little weed.

The profile of the average college sports fan is the exact opposite, white dude, decent job, doesn't sag pants, has to work hard every day, occasional drinker, not totally immersed in hip hop culture.

These two people have nothing in common, I would venture to say if your average college alumni saw a group of these young men on the plaza or the zoo and did not recognize them they would cross the street as they approached.

My point is of course you want these young men to be broke, it is the only way you can rationalize your support of them. If they make as much or more than you, then they turn into professional athletes and the innocence we like to pretend they have is taken away. And all we are left with is the fact we are rooting for someone who is different then us and has it much better than us in almost every way, its unacceptable and it sucks to be you.

Wait, what???? WOW, just wow!!

OK, that post might win for "dumb post of the day"...

[13and3]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Wait, what???? WOW, just wow!!

OK, that post might win for "dumb post of the day"...

Why?