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Old 04-07-2013, 10:05 AM  
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My final Geno thread before the draft

Simple question. Will you be upset if the Chiefs draft Geno Smith? If so, why?
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:22 PM   #181
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Again if we use the same reasons we do for why geno doesn't fit, based on Reid's history, how does joeckel fit? He's not a big physical lt. Doesn't have elite measurables either.


If they take a lt, i don't see it being him
Agree.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:23 PM   #182
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According to NationalFootballPost us and the Jags are showing the most ibterest in Geno
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:24 PM   #183
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No, you're not answering his question.

His question is at what point does positional value overtake individual player value.

I hesitate to paraphrase, but his thinking is that no LT will ever have 1:1 value. So he will always choose a "lesser" player at another position over the top LT.

Meaning to him, if he agrees for the sake of argument that Geno is not a franchise QB, he would still take him over any of the tackle prospects, despite their (again, theoretical for the sake of argument) higher grades.

So basically a QB with a 91 rating is more valuable than a LT with a 98.

(This happens to be my thinking as well)

His point was at what point to you agree with that, if ever? And then further, with which positions would that be true?

Is that a fair characterization SNR?
We have our QB. Our coach wanted him. Bad. And it's obvious that he thinks that it's not a need.

They are trying to win NOW. And LT is a huge piece to Reid's offense.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:25 PM   #184
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We are drafting BPA and Joeckel is the BPA. Him or Fisher. One of the LT's, unless we can't trade Albert.

We don't trade Albert and it's Dion Jordan time.
rofl. "Joekel is the BPA". You smoke some good shit, Chong.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:26 PM   #185
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We have our QB. Our coach wanted him. Bad. And it's obvious that he thinks that it's not a need.

They are trying to win NOW. And LT is a huge piece to Reid's offense.
You're still avoiding the question.

As a side note, let's say LT is a huge piece, and let's say our coach wanted the QB "bad", then why go with a rookie? Doesn't seem like a logical choice for protecting your prized investment.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:27 PM   #186
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I wouldn't be surprised if we draft a LT and keep Albert regardless.

QB is not a need now. We have our guy. And he's going to be here awhile. Let it go.
You've become the most transparent guy on cp. I never argued for a qb. Take that up with snr.

You throw it at the geno guys for turning every thread into geno stuff, but everytime someone legitimately tries to talk about a prospect they don't like for a legit reason , you bring out the "they aren't taking geno, get over it" mantra thus throwin the thread.

You agree with whatever move the regime makes. That's fine. But about a month ago you talked about how disappointing it would be to take a lt bla bla. It's obvious to see how you feel on the matter, which again is fine.

But enough with the running down others when we try to have a legit discussion about something because you don't like it
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We have our QB. Our coach wanted him. Bad. And it's obvious that he thinks that it's not a need.

They are trying to win NOW. And LT is a huge piece to Reid's offense.
Thats why we have a top 10 LT in Albert. If they plan to win now you stick with Albert. If you draft a rookie you arent planning to win now.

Dorsey makes the final call. Actually the power structure is Hunt > Dorsey > Reid. And both Clark and John both really like Geno.

This isnt gonna end well for you.
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You're still avoiding the question.

As a side note, let's say LT is a huge piece, and let's say our coach wanted the QB "bad", then why go with a rookie? Doesn't seem like a logical choice for protecting your prized investment.
Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.
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Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.
Based on?
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Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.
Your damn right but Dorsey and Hunt are.

Power structure goes Hunt > Dorsey > Reid.

Reids not making the call come draft day. Dorsey is and he even said so.
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You've become the most transparent guy on cp. I never argued for a qb. Take that up with snr.

You throw it at the geno guys for turning every thread into geno stuff, but everytime someone legitimately tries to talk about a prospect they don't like for a legit reason , you bring out the "they aren't taking geno, get over it" mantra thus throwin the thread.

You agree with whatever move the regime makes. That's fine. But about a month ago you talked about how disappointing it would be to take a lt bla bla. It's obvious to see how you feel on the matter, which again is fine.

But enough with the running down others when we try to have a legit discussion about something because you don't like it
I'm tired of this Geno shit ruining every thread.

This has been going on since September. It's like a guy getting broken up with by his gf and he won't shut up and move on from it after 8 months and they talk to you about it every single day.

And the dumbest part of this is that people are going to bitch about us not drafting Geno for months after we don't pick him.
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Your damn right but Dorsey and Hunt are.

Power structure goes Hunt > Dorsey > Reid.
No, it doesn't.

Maybe take a step away from the computer
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Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.
I didn't mention Geno. My question was about the tackles and related more to Albert and the "win now" mentality. If they think they can win with Alex Smith, and we have a franchised LT who's already a proven player in the league (and who Andy Reid has supported very openly and publicly for years), then why are we (fans) even talking about drafting a LT? It wouldn't make any logical sense to endanger our star QB Alex Smith, or the potential for winning immediately, by starting a rookie LT.
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Based on?
Uh we traded multiple high picks for a QB.
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All I know is this; Andy got what he wanted before the draft. Welp, guess who's turn it is on draft day to get what HE wants, mother****ers? And I guran****ingtee you that the man who places a premium on stacking the deck at the QB position, the man who had a hand in the taking and development of A~Rodg(like that shit, bitches?), will NOT have his sights set on a non-generational sack of mule dung like Luke "Sta-Puff" Jokel. Deal with it.
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