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Old 04-14-2011, 11:56 AM  
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Expect Flurry of First-Round Draft Trades

Expect flurry of first-round draft trades

08:03 AM ET 04.14 | Stability at quarterback among teams picking in the back half of the draft is likely to directly affect the wheeling and dealing. Of the teams picking from 17-32 in the first round, the only team that really needs a quarterback is Seattle, which is picking 25th. The rest are all set, unless one of those teams plans to look for a quarterback of the future. The quarterback stability of the teams in those spots is why they are there. ... What that should do is set up what could be a wild ride at the back end of the first round, with a flurry of trades. The haves can make deals with the have-nots. "I still think as many as five quarterbacks go in the first round," an NFC general manager said. "You watch. Some of those guys will go late in the round when teams realize they won't all be there in the second, and they have to make moves to get them."

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Since we're "set" at "quarterback" . . . what are the odds we trade down from 21 and pick up additional picks?
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Old 04-14-2011, 01:57 PM   #16
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I think we would be much more competitive with those positions filled, but if the goal is to win championships, we need more, IMO.
AFC West championships? We're supposed to want more? You're obviously not a real Chiefs fan.
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:00 PM   #17
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AFC West championships? We're supposed to want more? You're obviously not a real Chiefs fan.
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:02 PM   #18
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But what about when he lined up at LB?
Just calls 'em as I sees 'em. Dorsey was better in 2010 than in 2009, but he was still invisible more often than not. He flashed some, but was often overwhelmed, particularly in the running game. The guy is not a five tech, period.

I know that people around here are still hopeful for those two first rounders that Carl and Herm picked in 2008, but neither have justified their lofty pick status with on the field production. Albert simply does not have the talent to play left tackle at this level and Dorsey is playing out of position in the wrong scheme. He was outplayed by Arena Football castoff Smith and Wallace Gilberry. And I understand that with only so many players available that sometimes you have to make the best of a bad situation, but it's time that both positions are seriously looked at for potential upgrades.
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:06 PM   #19
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Just calls 'em as I sees 'em. Dorsey was better in 2010 than in 2009, but he was still invisible more often than not. He flashed some, but was often overwhelmed, particularly in the running game. The guy is not a five tech, period.

I know that people around here are still hopeful for those two first rounders that Carl and Herm picked in 2008, but neither have justified their lofty pick status with on the field production. Albert simply does not have the talent to play left tackle at this level and Dorsey is playing out of position in the wrong scheme. He was outplayed by Arena Football castoff Smith and Wallace Gilberry. And I understand that with only so many players available that sometimes you have to make the best of a bad situation, but it's time that both positions are seriously looked at for potential upgrades.
That's fine, but we're going to have to agree to disagree. When it comes to Dorsey, we have two very different views of this player.
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:12 PM   #20
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Albert is not trash. He was the LT on a team that led the NFL in rushing. Can we upgrade, possibly, but we can definitely survive with him as a Left Tackle.
The Chiefs benefitted from a 2010 schedule that amazingly played directly to the strengths of the team.

If they don't upgrade the position this year, and we actually end up playing the 2011 year with the schedule as it is, I guarantee you that by the end of the season the vast majority of people here will be vociferously calling for his replacement.
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:13 PM   #21
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The Chiefs benefitted from a 2010 schedule that amazingly played directly to the strengths of the team.

If they don't upgrade the position this year, and we actually end up playing the 2011 year with the schedule as it is, I guarantee you that by the end of the season the vast majority of people here will be vociferously calling for his replacement.
You're right, we really need to find Cassel's replacement.
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:15 PM   #22
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I think we're about 5-6 quality players away from being a contender.

C, WR, OLB, NT, RT, RB
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You don't need a great fullback to win a championship. Hell, you really don't even need a good one. I'm trying to think of the last SB champion to actually utilize the FB.
The Bucs?
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:17 PM   #24
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If they don't upgrade the position this year, and we actually end up playing the 2011 year with the schedule as it is, I guarantee you that by the end of the season the vast majority of people here will be vociferously calling for his replacement.
God, a little dramatic aren't we? Yeah, Albert isn't that good, but he isn't that bad either. You're being a drama queen right now.
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You're right, we really need to find Cassel's replacement.
We've needed to find his replacement since the day that we traded for him.
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Without really thinking about it, probably.
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:29 PM   #27
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a real NT, a quality #2 WR, and a young center would do wonders for this team....


no team in the league is 13 players away from contending, that's just ****ing stupid....most teams are 1 player away: the QB

our OL is good enough for the top flight QBs....problem is, we have Cassel...hence the feeling we that have to have great players at every single position on the field to make up for him...
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:33 PM   #28
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a real NT, a quality #2 WR, and a young center would do wonders for this team....


no team in the league is 13 players away from contending, that's just ****ing stupid....most teams are 1 player away: the QB

our OL is good enough for the top flight QBs....problem is, we have Cassel...hence the feeling we that have to have great players at every single position on the field to make up for him...
Excellent point.
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and spare me the rap on Dorsey....guy is a complete ****ing stud

he plays next to bags of crap on a 3-4 DL...if here were next to a good NT, his qualitiy would be clear enough for even sackfobats to notice...


blows my mind we run a 3-4 and line up street trash year after year...they better find a god damn NT this year or they are bona fide hooties...
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In all honesty, we're a great QB from being a contender. Since we don't have a great QB we need a whole bunch of guys to get there.
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