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Old 01-27-2010, 12:12 PM  
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Old 01-30-2010, 10:19 AM   #271
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They did go out of their way to simply work around flash and Youtube. The whole YouTube app is evidence of this.
As you point out, while not "multitasking" the iPhone and Touch accomplish the same feat in their own way. If I'm on this board, and someone posts a YouTube video, I click on it and it opens the YouTube app and plays it, and when I close it I'm right back on this board where I was.
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Old 01-30-2010, 10:28 AM   #272
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As you point out, while not "multitasking" the iPhone and Touch accomplish the same feat in their own way. If I'm on this board, and someone posts a YouTube video, I click on it and it opens the YouTube app and plays it, and when I close it I'm right back on this board where I was.
Precisely. It is multitasking just in a different conceptual form. Now, that said, you cannot stream Pandora while surfing the web. I think if Apple approved background processes for media/social apps, it might work. Though, they seem pretty dedicated to push even though it doesn't work with music or the like.
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Old 01-30-2010, 10:46 AM   #273
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Screens Pixel Qi 3Qi Magic E-Paper and High-Res LCD Dual Display Becomes Real Next Month

By Matt Buchanan on April 24, 2009 at 1:29 AM

The display technology Pixel Qi has been promising is revolutionary: A high-res colour LCD and low-power, reflective reader mode better than E-ink. For dirt cheap. And it’s coming next month.


If you recall, PixelQi’s founder, Mary Lou Jepsen, is the brains behind the OLPC’s breakthrough reflective screen, and an evangelist for the idea that the future of the computer is in displays. When we talked to her about the problems with e-readers, she predicted that LCD would overtake electrophoretic display technology—aka E-ink—by 2010.


The idea isn’t crazy if Pixel Qi’s displays match the hype: One screen that delivers a high-res, colour LCD for normal computer stuff; an e-paper mode that’s even more readable than e-ink; and a super low-power black-and-white mode. And is cheap to make and advance, since it’s fabricated in standard LCD factories. It makes the possibility of a single tablet computer that really can do everything that much more possible.
And we’ll get to see the first one, 3Qi, next month. Sure, it’s just a stupid screen, but I’m excited.

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Old 01-30-2010, 11:26 AM   #274
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Finally, I hear a peep about that. It's been rumored for forever. I'll wait and see if it lives up to the hype.
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Bye-bye Kindle, E-reader Screens Coming for Netbooks

Dan Nystedt and Martyn Williams, IDG News Service
Netbook makers will soon play a larger role in the e-reader market if start-up Pixel Qi has anything to say about it.



The company, founded by former One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) CTO Mary Lou Jepsen, will show off engineering samples of its first screen product at Computex Taipei 2009 next week, and IDG News Service was able to catch a first look on Friday.

The first Pixel Qi product, called 3qi, is a 10.1-inch netbook screen designed to work in three modes: a black-and-white e-ink mode for reading text documents and e-books, and two color modes, designed for use indoors or in bright sunlight, that are more suitable for Web surfing and video playback.

E-ink mode extends battery life by shutting off the backlight, and is intended for reading e-books, documents, Web sites or blogs and other text-based material.

The screens should be in netbooks and on store shelves by the end of this year, said Jepsen. Giving netbooks new screens capable of making them e-readers could make them compelling holiday presents, for price and functionality alone.

E-reader makers have reason to fear such innovation because people will be able to buy devices with more functions for about the same price. The latest Kindle, a stand-alone e-reader, costs US$359 according to Amazon.com, while some of the world's most popular netbooks with 10-inch screens, Asustek's Eee PC 1000HE and Acer's Aspire One AOD150-1165, are similarly priced.

New netbooks designed to include e-reader functions will likely have displays that can swivel around to cover the keyboard, a tablet mode good for an e-book reader, said John Ryan, chief operating officer at Pixel Qi.

Beyond the screen, netbook users will need e-reader software, which is already available from several companies, including Adobe Digital Editions, Microsoft Reader, Times Reader made from Adobe Air and even Kindle software made for other devices, such as the iPhone.

Power consumption is another issue Pixel Qi tackled in its 3qi screens.

"What you're looking at is a screen that's entirely reflective," said Ryan, at Pixel Qi's temporary office in Taipei. "It's just running like e-paper so that it's running on the ambient light. It's not fighting the office light , it's not fighting the sunlight. That makes it better for reading but it also cuts the power consumption. The backlight in the screen is typically the largest power drain in any notebook computer."

Battery life is vital in mobile devices such as netbooks. Once Pixel Qi screens are more widely adopted in the industry, the company plans to start working more closely with laptop and netbook designers on ways to lower power drain in the overall system, not just the screen.

The next major hurdle for Pixel Qi is finding large customers for its new 3qi screens.

The screens will cost a little more than conventional LCD screens at first, but costs will go down as production volume picks up, said Jepsen. Pixel Qi designed its screens around the most common technology and production line processes of the day, TFT-LCD (thin-film-transistor liquid crystal display) technology.

The company did not say which manufacturers it is working with, but there are several in Taiwan, including AU Optronics, Chi Mei Optoelectronics and Chunghwa Picture Tubes.

One bonus for Pixel Qi is that the global recession has hurt LCD demand, freeing up production lines for its new display.

But that's about the only benefit from this recession.

"People read the news everyday and this has been pretty bad, and so convincing people to take risks during that time was darn hard," said Jepsen. "Venture capital dried up so of course we were trying to get funding during all of that, but we did it."
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Old 01-31-2010, 03:03 PM   #277
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For the last ****ing time, it CAN multitask. It always has been able to. It runs the same OS as the iPhone. They're basically merging, ever so slowly, the desktop and mobile experiences.
If you can't run AIM and a browser at the same time, or listen to pandora and read a book at the same time that means NO ****ING MULTI-TASKING. I'm sorry man. That's how it is.

Also, I have not heard of flash dieing at all, but lets just say that it is. It wont be dead by time this comes out, and a shit ton of web pages use flash. You will have gaping holes in your browsing expierence. Sounds pretty fail to me

And for anyone that thinks that apple is excelerating anything on a 3rd party software development or demise with thier market share vs windows market share, you are severly mistaken.
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Looks cool....but have no idea how it is different from a latop or IPhone?
One of the things it can do, that apple wanted to get into the area of competiting with and that is downloading books, mags and such so ie, Kindle.

But yea, that's about it. They could have done more.

I really hope they get flash video adapt for it, I hate not having that for my iphone.
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If you can't run AIM and a browser at the same time, or listen to pandora and read a book at the same time that means NO ****ING MULTI-TASKING. I'm sorry man. That's how it is.

Also, I have not heard of flash dieing at all, but lets just say that it is. It wont be dead by time this comes out, and a shit ton of web pages use flash. You will have gaping holes in your browsing expierence. Sounds pretty fail to me

And for anyone that thinks that apple is excelerating anything on a 3rd party software development or demise with thier market share vs windows market share, you are severly mistaken.
Multi-tasking means doing multiple tasks at the same time. If you can listen to Apple's music player while browsing the web or listen to it while tweeting, you're MULTITASKING. It doesn't matter WHAT apps you're using.

The only difference here is what is allowed to multitask. Third party apps aren't. So, please, stop talking out of your ass.

Gaping holes? Like what? Hulu? Please cite these "fails". So far, Farmville and Hulu are the two examples I've seen.

Accelerating no flash on the mobile market? Hell yes they are. Flash doesn't matter whether it's Windows or OSX or linux. Flash is being phased out by the internet. HTML5 is phasing it out. If you don't see this, you aren't paying attention. Granted, it's just beginning.
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One of the things it can do, that apple wanted to get into the area of competiting with and that is downloading books, mags and such so ie, Kindle.

But yea, that's about it. They could have done more.

I really hope they get flash video adapt for it, I hate not having that for my iphone.
Flash ain't coming any time soon, buddy. Jailbreak it or else join the campaign to rid the internet of flash. Or, alternatively, don't support Apple by buying their flashless devices.
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Multi-tasking means doing multiple tasks at the same time. If you can listen to Apple's music player while browsing the web or listen to it while tweeting, you're MULTITASKING. It doesn't matter WHAT apps you're using.

The only difference here is what is allowed to multitask. Third party apps aren't. So, please, stop talking out of your ass.

Gaping holes? Like what? Hulu? Please cite these "fails". So far, Farmville and Hulu are the two examples I've seen.

Accelerating no flash on the mobile market? Hell yes they are. Flash doesn't matter whether it's Windows or OSX or linux. Flash is being phased out by the internet. HTML5 is phasing it out. If you don't see this, you aren't paying attention. Granted, it's just beginning.
The ability to multitask less than 1% of the available iPhone apps is really just the same as no multitasking as far as I'm concerned. There are 2 billion third party iPhone apps. Are you really content with running that iPod app in the background when there are 2 billion other apps that you can't? Multitasking third party apps is the whole point. That's what I want to multitask the most. And you can get a jailbreak-only app called Backgrounder, that will actually let you run any third party app in the background. With that, the battery life really isn't much worse. Which means that the device can handle it, Apple just didn't want to do it.

And you may think Flash is being phased out, but it's still going to be around for a long time. Along with Hulu, you also can't view webpages from ESPN, Disney, Miniclip, JibJab, or Kongregate, just to name a few popular ones. By the time HTML5 actually catches on and is viable for the majority of websites, the iPad will be old news. It's not like any websites are going to make an overnight switch to HTML5.
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Multi-tasking means doing multiple tasks at the same time. If you can listen to Apple's music player while browsing the web or listen to it while tweeting, you're MULTITASKING. It doesn't matter WHAT apps you're using.

The only difference here is what is allowed to multitask. Third party apps aren't. So, please, stop talking out of your ass.

So IT IS Apple only software that can multi-task, if this is even true. I love being told what I can and can't use. Thanks Apple for making my decisions for me.

And FTR, the stuff you described is exactly what the article says this thing can not do. Just sayen.


Gaping holes? Like what? Hulu? Please cite these "fails". So far, Farmville and Hulu are the two examples I've seen.

I don't know man, why don't you go surf through some pages on the internets other than facebook. At this point, you're reaching on your retort or you have no idea what you are talking about if you believe that Flash isn't used on a shit ton of websites out there.

Accelerating no flash on the mobile market? Hell yes they are. Flash doesn't matter whether it's Windows or OSX or linux. Flash is being phased out by the internet. HTML5 is phasing it out. If you don't see this, you aren't paying attention. Granted, it's just beginning.

You made no mention of the mobile market, you just said flash is dying. The reason flash isn't on a mobil market is it is too cumbersome for a lot of smart devices, not to mention the load on the networks would be insane. Don't take this as me defending Flash, i'm just saying that the claim that Apple is speeding up the demise is pretty false.
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Flash bandwidth isn't really any worse than any other streaming software. It wouldn't cause any additional network load. Android, Windows Mobile, and the Palm webOS all have Flash players and have for some time, and you don't hear any problems with that.
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Flash bandwidth isn't really any worse than any other streaming software. It wouldn't cause any additional network load. Android, Windows Mobile, and the Palm webOS all have Flash players and have for some time, and you don't hear any problems with that.
Interesting. I wonder how it would fair on AT&T's network with all the iPhones?
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Steve Jobs will probably disagree, but we think that netbooks have a few things up on the iPad.

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Steve Jobs felt compelled to take jabs at the netbook market when he announced his magical Apple iPad stating at one point, "The problem is that netbooks aren't better than anything." But don't ditch that netbook just yet. Here are 42 reasons (ranked in no particular order) why I think netbooks can give the iPad a run for its money.

1) Netbooks are cheaper. The majority of them run between $200-$400. And after you spend all that money on accessories and upgrade options for the iPad, you'd be able to buy 3 netbooks for the same amount of money.
2) With a netbook, you can multitask, allowing you to run several apps at the same time.
3) Though it hasn't been confirmed that there is absolutely no Flash support in the iPad, we at least know netbooks have full Flash support.
4) Netbooks have USB ports, about 2 to 3 on average. The iPad has none.
5) Higher Resolutions. There are several 10-inch netbooks that offers 1,366-by-768 resolutions, namely the HP Mini 5102, Dell Mini 10, and Sony VAIO VGN W-Series. The iPad tops out at 1,024-by-768.
6) Netbooks have options for bigger screens. You can get one with an 11-inch or 12-inch widescreen.
7) Removeable batteries. You can buy an additional battery for your netbook if you want, allowing it to last for multiple days.
8) Every single netbook comes with a Webcam for video conferencing and chats.
9) They have physical keyboards, so you don't have to spend extra money to buy a physical one that docks.
10) Multi-format card readers are built-into every netbook, so you can download photos and videos from your camera.
11) Netbooks have the potential to support handwriting recognition. Handwriting recognition is built in to Windows and convertible netbook tablets already exists, so it's only a matter of time before Wacom bursts into action.
12) Netbooks have a clamshell design, so their screens are less likely to get scratched.
13) Netbooks use faster processors.
14) Yeah, spinning drives on the netbooks are less durable than solid-state drives (SSDs) found in the iPad, but they come in greater capacities; and at least you can upgrade a netbook up to a to a 128GB SSD.
15) Netbooks can easily be "modded" with more RAM, bigger hard drive capacity, or a different operating system.
16) The Dell Mini 10v can be "hackintoshed" with a full blown version of Mac OS 10.
17) With a netbook, you can get apps through other means besides iTunes.
18) Netbooks have widescreens, which aren't necessarily better, but at least give youwhich gives you true portrait mode. The iPad screen can rotate, but it's square-ish in dimension.
19) Netbooks have an Ethernet port and some have a Gigabit Ethernet. Thus, if the Wi-Fi's throughput is not enough for streaming HD video, you can always plug in a network cable.
20) Some netbooks can playback 720p and 1080p HD videos, with the latest Nvidia Ion chips.
21) Netbooks have shown that they can last longer than 10 hours.
22) There are countless netbook designs to choose from. So if, say, the Toshiba mini NB305-N410's plastics don't suit you, the metals in the HP Mini 5102 might.
23) Netbooks can run a full-blown Windows OS.
24) You're not tempted to spend hundreds of dollars on accessories for netbooks.
25) Some netbooks have both VGA-Out and HDMI-Out, without the need for a connector.
26) Gaming is more advanced on a netbook, albeit not by much.
27) Some netbooks, like the Lenovo IdeaPad S12 and S10, have ExpressCard slots, so you can add expansion cards for FireWire, TV tuner, legacy ports, or 3G/4G wireless.
28) You can choose different 3G wireless carriers with a netbook.
29) Netbooks purchased from Costco or ASUS come with 2-year standard warranties. The iPad will likely give you one-year standard.
30) You can print files from a netbook.
31) Netbooks have more networking capabilities, such as the ability to map to drives and printers.
32) We know Intel and AMD processor and chipset technology will scale each year. The iPad is using an unproven, homebrewed chipset, so we don't know how well it will scale.
33) With a netbook, you can connect an optical drive for all your Netflix and BlockBuster rentals.
34) You can buy turn-by-turn direction software for netbooks that have embedded GPS options.
35) Netbook can support multiple OSes. Most netbooks have Linux pre-boot environments that will get you access to a browser and email data within seconds.
36) Netbooks are more child-friendly. Disney and Nickelodeon have launched netbooks with a ton of child-friendly software. And netbooks like the Dell Latitude 2100 and HP Mini 5102 are being deployed in schools.
37) The Dell Mini 10 has an option for a built-in TV tuner, so you can watch and record live TV.
38) Your netbook can run multiple browsers, so you're not stuck with Safari only.
39) Netbooks can run Java.
40) Netbooks can run multiple Exchange Mail accounts.
41) You don't need another computer to sync your data.
42) Netbooks with Nvidia's Ion chipset can support external Blu-ray drives.
Number 2 isn't another reference to no multi-tasking is it? I mean, I could be wrong, but thats what it looks like to me.

Also, whats up with #39? No Java on the iPad either? Good thing java isn't really that relevant either.
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