QB Impressions

[Direckshun]

First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight.

DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
6'4", 230 lbs
26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards

I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence.

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina
6'3", 220 lbs
30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards

Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

http://walterfootball.com/combine2018QB.php



Josh Allen's velocity was clocked at 62 MPH



Mayfield's was 60 MPH



Rosen's was 59 MPH



Lamar Jackson's was 49 MPH

Good read on velocity.

https://twitter.com/markschofield/st...374028800?s=21

[KChiefs1]

Buffalo guy was on with Petro & he said they want Darnold or Rosen in the draft.

Sounds like Cleveland is going to end up with a lot of the Bills draft picks if they want to trade with them.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

http://walterfootball.com/combine2018QB.php

Josh Allen's velocity was clocked at 62 MPH

Mayfield's was 60 MPH

Rosen's was 59 MPH

Lamar Jackson's was 49 MPH

Last year for comparison sake:

Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech, 55 (Left), 55 (Right)

Nathan Peterman, Pittsburgh, 49 (Left), 49 (Right)

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina, 51 (Left), 50 (Right)

Deshaun Watson, Clemson, 45 (Left), 45 (Right)

Davis Webb, California, 56 (Left), 54 (Right)

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Last year for comparison sake:

Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech, 55 (Left), 55 (Right)

Nathan Peterman, Pittsburgh, 49 (Left), 49 (Right)

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina, 51 (Left), 50 (Right)

Deshaun Watson, Clemson, 45 (Left), 45 (Right)

Davis Webb, California, 56 (Left), 54 (Right)

Mahomes was clocked at 60 MPH at the combine and 62 on the NFLN passing with David Carr

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Mahomes was clocked at 60 MPH at the combine and 62 on the NFLN passing with David Carr

http://blogs.ourlads.com/2017/03/16/...ine-2008-2015/

Has Mahomes at 55 left and right.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

http://blogs.ourlads.com/2017/03/16/...ine-2008-2015/

Has Mahomes at 55 left and right.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HbXhUHIFRkg

Do you believe hearsay numbers or the video

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HbXhUHIFRkg

Do you believe hearsay numbers or the video

I'll take the numbers from the combine over a makeshift NFL network set.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I'll take the numbers from the combine over a makeshift NFL network set.

https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/patrick-mahomes/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LqYN8IWNE2w

[KChiefs1]

These are my own rankings and will be different from the mainstream media. All of my top 8 have some starter qualities and have a chance of being a starting QB in the NFL imo.

After watching 5+ games on the top 10 QB prospects here is how I would rank them:

1) Sam Darnold (Grade 87, top ten prospect)
- Pros: accuracy, progression ability, ability to extend plays, pocket presence, mobility, clutch, leader, qb persona, arm strength, winner, can make throws in tight windows, size
- Cons: turnovers, unusual delivery, sometimes fooled by coverages, not always consistent with deep ball.

2) Josh Rosen (Grade 85, top ten prospect)
- Pros: Accuracy at all three levels, great understanding of the game, progression ability, pocket presence, arm strength, ability to throw in tight windows, intelligent, size, quick release
- Cons: Durability, few head scratching turnovers, mobility.

3) Baker Mayfield (Grade 82, 1st round prospect)
- Pros: deadly short and intermediate accuracy, clutch, creates energy, leader, winner, arm strength, mobility, moves around pocket well, progression ability, senior
-Cons: size, sometimes misses throwing lanes, size sometimes limits him from stepping up in the pocket, inconsistent deep ball accuracy, occasionally throws late b/c of big arm.

4) Mike White (Grade 78, 2nd round prospect)
-Pros: Accuracy at all three levels, arm strength, progression ability, throws with anticipation, shows ability to step up in the pocket, senior, size
- Cons: Will have to master moving around the pocket because of very limited mobility, sometimes slow going through reads, takes sacks too often.

5) Mason Rudolph (Grade 77, 2nd round prospect)
- Pros: Accuracy, progression ability, pocket presence, senior, QB persona, size
- Cons: Mobility, arm strength

6) Josh Allen (Grade 77, 2nd round prospect)
-Pros: Elite arm strength, makes wow throws with arm strength and accuracy that only he can make, tough, competitive, mobility, size, may have arm talent to overcome deficiencies
-Cons: Does not seem to process the game, misses open WRs, drops eyes to early and runs, misses routine throws, accuracy declines after 1st read, poor statistics.

7) Lamar Jackson (Grade 75, 3rd round prospect)
- Pros: Elite running ability, quick release, makes wow plays every game, show ability to go through progressions, escapability, extends plays
-Cons: Very inconsistent accuracy, lots of over throws on tape, ugly turnovers.

8) Logan Woodside (Grade 73, 4th round prospect)
-Pros: Senior, unmatchable work ethic, football intelligence, quick processor, accurate at all three levels, raises level of play of his teammates, quick release, progression ability, pocket presence
- Cons: may not have enough arm strength to be NFL starter, size

Other QBs that will likely be drafted late in the draft (I consider them developmental back ups): Lauletta, Falk, Benkert, Litton.

[B_Ambuehl]

6) Josh Allen (Grade 77, 2nd round prospect)
-Pros: Elite arm strength, makes wow throws with arm strength and accuracy that only he can make, tough, competitive, mobility, size, may have arm talent to overcome deficiencies
-Cons: Does not seem to process the game, misses open WRs, drops eyes to early and runs, misses routine throws, accuracy declines after 1st read, poor statistics.

Definitely agree with you here. Allen is getting a lot of false hype IMO.

If i was picking a QB to play Madden with it would be Rosen. But for a team like Cleveland, that can't afford any more mistakes, I'd go with Darnold.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I'll take the numbers from the combine over a makeshift NFL network set.

Well the numbers at the combine had Mahomes at 59, so you’re off either way.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Darnold struggling to throw down field in the rain at his pro day.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Well the numbers at the combine had Mahomes at 59, so you’re off either way.

Ball velocity numbers (MPH) from the Combine:

60 - Mahomes
59 - Webb
56 - Kizer
55 - Trubisky, Evans
53 - Peterman, Kaaya
49 - Watson

— Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) March 10, 2017

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Ball velocity numbers (MPH) from the Combine:

60 - Mahomes
59 - Webb
56 - Kizer
55 - Trubisky, Evans
53 - Peterman, Kaaya
49 - Watson

— Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) March 10, 2017

Excuse me, yes it was 60. I knew he either tied or broke the record as far back as it goes.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Excuse me, yes it was 60. I knew he either tied or broke the record as far back as it goes.

I apologize that I Mahomoed out, but he's our guy by hell or high water.