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Old 12-01-2012, 08:52 AM  
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Shooting at Arrowhead- Chiefs player commits suicide

No details yet. Just came across on the news.

edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm.

An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning.

Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25.

"We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation."

There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said.

The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.

The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/86...-team-facility

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Old 12-01-2012, 01:46 PM   #1126
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But he didn't kill anyone. Belcher did.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:47 PM   #1127
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100% yes. Everybody needs to get wind of this, because this is a top-notch idea.

She's someone who ACTUALLY needs saving. I'd be fine with holding off on banners for the rest of the year and donating the rest of that money to her.
I've already donated but I'd go another 25 if this were to happen
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:48 PM   #1128
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:48 PM   #1129
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:48 PM   #1130
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If they are gonna play tomorrow chiefs fans need to pack arrowhead ala 90s style to show we support them and they are family when they become a chief.


I know this year has been tough and we aren't happy with the way things have gone but now isn't a time for that. The players need our support
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:49 PM   #1131
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Such terrible news, JFC. Thoughts and prayers to all the people affected by this.

BigRedChief and Dave, you guys both need to shut the **** up. Jovan was obviously a troubled individual, not some cold-blooded murderer, show some ****ing sympathy and be grateful you're not going through something like he was. Dumbasses.
Why do we always use the "troubled" or "temporarily insane" BS. So much? It's a crutch.

Everybody has had some F-ed up stuff happen in our lives. Some even more than others. But that's never an excuse to murder someone.

I don't believe one moment ever defines us in who we are. But our actions are part of who we are. So at least in that respect, Jovan has to own that murderer label.

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Old 12-01-2012, 01:49 PM   #1132
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No where did I say that was THE factor. It might be A factor. These things so not happen in a vaccum. He likely has a history (based on things we are now reading) of uncontrollable rage perhaps after growing up watching it himself. His choice of major could indicate his desire to try to do things differently but in the end he could not.

I think people outside of this situation will likely see his professional pressures played a part in this situation. Perhaps fueling his sense of inadequacy and rage. Perhaps as he saw in his own home growing up.

Seems like you have flipped (imagine that) from it was a major proponent of his actions to it might have a little something to do with them.


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Neither. Look, people who have healthy support systems don't do this. Think of how your job might be your sanctuary if your home life is bad or vice versa. Also think about how a quiet person (as he's been described all morning) would have a hard time opening up to other people because it's not his nature.

So he's having problems at home where he can internalize it and no one knows. But he goes to work where his failures are on display. Not just his but his team, the organization, the city. The support system within the players seems to still be there as we've not seen ANY public blaming or dissing of each other. But once he leaves that locker room all good feelings there are no longer. The failings are out in the open and a matter of public discourse. They are on the field and in the air. They are on the television and on the airwaves.

There is no soap box here. There is the fact that someone who feels they have something going right in their lives does not do this unless they are mentally ill which, if that is the case, he is likely not equipped to handle the pressure of the NFL.

The energy at Arrowhead has been toxic for awhile (see their home record) and I think that it would not be surprising if some of the players have been dealing with depression or other types of mental health issues. I'm not saying any of this caused Belcher's actions but to believe they were not ANY FACTOR AT ALL is not realistic.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:49 PM   #1133
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If they are gonna play tomorrow chiefs fans need to pack arrowhead ala 90s style to show we support them and they are family when they become a chief.


I know this year has been tough and we aren't happy with the way things have gone but now isn't a time for that. The players need our support
I think we should have the game, and support the team more than ever.
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This is just incredibly sad.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:50 PM   #1135
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**** you and your attempt to censor whats said on this board. Defending a murderer because he was troubled?
I'm not the one calling for bans in the thread, guy. I'm just saying you need to shut the **** up because you're being a callous piece of shit. Cold-blooded murderers don't kill themselves. I think it's pretty obvious he was mentally and emotionally crippled when he pulled that trigger both times. That can happen to anyone, you douche. Show some class.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:50 PM   #1136
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Without going back and having to read everyone's friggen opinion on what the league should do or what they now think of Jevon has anyone found out anything about the kid was not his rumour?
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:51 PM   #1138
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They will play solely because of draft position. It could make a big difference in who got the number one pick.. It's the nfl, they simply cannot not play.
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This is quite possibly the most unbelievable tragedy in the history of the NFL.
Like something out of movie. We as fans have suffered for 40 years and now this incident will never be forgotten. Even our players have had enough of this crap.
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