Sac's Halfway Point 2013 Chiefs Mock

[Saccopoo]

Since we don't have any announced trades as of yet, and Dorsey has said he'll draft the best player available, here's the most recent incarnation of my mock:

1. Geno Smith, QB; West Virginia: 6'3", 220 lbs.

- Yeah, they traded for Alex Smith. But he's 29 years old and coming off of a concussion injury. Alex represents the best potential starting QB for the Chiefs in 2013 prior to the draft. Which is what Dorsey/Reid have tried to accomplish in free agency - setting the Chiefs up with the potential for winning right out of the gate. However, there also has to be long term potential at the QB position. As well, Dorsey has stated he'll take the best player available. That guy is Geno.



3. Phillip Thomas, FS; Fresno State: 6'1", 210 lbs.

- Thomas was the only non-BCS player to make all five official First Team All-American lists after the 2012 season after posting other-worldly numbers for the Bulldogs. Incredibly instinctive with a high football IQ, Thomas is superb in the open field showing excellent feet and hips, as well as going after ball carriers with authority.



3. John Simon, DE/OLB; Ohio State: 6'1", 257 lbs.

- John Simon is an absolute animal. Relentless. He's the terminator - he never stops, never quits. He's strong like bull and is thickly muscled. The best pass rusher on the Buckeyes squad for the past two years leading them in both sacks and tackles for loss. A former five star prep recruit, Simon does not know any other speed than full tilt relentless destruction. Think of linebackers like Bill Romanowski - that's how this kid plays.



4. Joe Kruger, DE/DT; Utah: 6'7", 280 lbs.

- The younger brother of Ravens DE/LB Paul, Joe is a physically bigger version of him. A workout warrior with a nose for the ball and a nasty streak, he'll play through the whistle. Led the Utes in sacks in 2012. Big frame and good athleticism. Anyone wanting SMU's Margus Hunt, this is a more polished, more experienced version that's been well coached and played against top level competition. Plays a lot like current Denver Bronco Derek Wolfe.



5. Kevin Reddick, ILB; North Carolina: 6'2", 245 lbs.

- Downgraded by some scouts/draftniks saying that he ran "hot and cold," however, from what I've seen, he's very instinctive and was able to find the ball/play through traffic. Shed blocks extremely well in addition to being able to fight through them. Pretty impressed with Reddick at this point.



6. Ricky Wagner, OT; Wisconsin: 6'6", 310 lbs.

- A former prep basketball star, he ended up playing both sides of the offensive line and was named First Team All-Conference his senior year. Experienced and from a system that consistently puts out quality pro prospects. Has the athletic ability to play either side of the line in a pinch, but should be a natural right tackle at that next level.



6. Jeff Baca, OG; UCLA: 6'4", 305 lbs.

- Agressive and physical, Baca started his career at offensive tackle and moved inside for his junior and senior year. Has also filled in at center. Second team All-Conference and was voted most outstanding senior on offense by his Bruin teammates.



7. Rex Burkhead, RB; Nebraska: 5'10", 215 lbs.

- Excellent hands and a crafty first step, Burkhead is a multi-dimensional threat. Plays hard and tough - will immediately contribute on special teams and has potential as a third down back or fullback.

[buddha]

Love your mock, Sac. Makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

[Saccopoo]

New mock for the just announced compensatory picks.

[Direckshun]

You're misinformed on Kruger.

Kruger is actually 6'6", 269 lbs. That's eleven pounds lighter than you list him, and that's over twenty pounds lighter than the DT you compare him to, Derek Wolfe.

Kruger is a tweener in our defense, and probably doesn't belong on it.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

You're misinformed on Kruger.

Kruger is actually 6'6", 269 lbs. That's eleven pounds lighter than you list him, and that's over twenty pounds lighter than the DT you compare him to, Derek Wolfe.

Kruger is a tweener in our defense, and probably doesn't belong on it.

I'm pretty sure I'm not.

Kruger is a couple of Sunday dinners away from 300 lbs. He's got a big frame and isn't anywhere close to maxed out.

And he played at about 280 during the year. He dropped weight to run a better 40 at the combine.

From NFL.com:

Bottom Line
Kruger has an great frame, and is highly athletic and powerful. His technique is raw, and he needs to work on improving his pad level, but he has plenty of upside as a 34 defensive end. Kruger will likely be selected within the first 100 picks.

[Direckshun]

Have you watched Malliciah Goodman, at all?

Guy has ridiculous measurables. All right right stuff that translates to the field -- kinda blah on the field, though. Wonder how he'd translate to the NFL as a 3-4 DE.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Chiefs have gotten the plug in QB for their entire history. It needs to stop.

Look at my sig. We must draft a decent #2 rookie QB to set and develop behind the hot garbage that is the Chiefs QB situation.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Have you watched Malliciah Goodman, at all?

Guy has ridiculous measurables. All right right stuff that translates to the field -- kinda blah on the field, though. Wonder how he'd translate to the NFL as a 3-4 DE.

I think we have that same guy on the roster in Allen Bailey - and Bailey was substantially better on the field than Goodman was during his college career.

There is a number of guys like Goodman in this draft (e.g. - Ziggy Ansah, Margus Hunt, Cornelius Washington, Michael Buchannan, Devin Taylor, etc.), long, muscular guys that put up some pretty ridiculous combine/test numbers who really didn't have the production to back up the measurables on the field.

I personally really like Kruger as he put up good measurables and backed up that on the field (led the Utes in sacks in 2012). He was considered the "best" pro prospect out of the three Kruger brothers and probably would have had an even bigger year had he stayed in school this next season. And, as I stated, he'll easily carry 300 lbs. on his frame and still maintain his athleticism. Plays hard as hell and loves the game.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I think we have that same guy on the roster in Allen Bailey - and Bailey was substantially better on the field than Goodman was during his college career.

There is a number of guys like Goodman in this draft (e.g. - Ziggy Ansah, Margus Hunt, Cornelius Washington, Michael Buchannan, Devin Taylor, etc.), long, muscular guys that put up some pretty ridiculous combine/test numbers who really didn't have the production to back up the measurables on the field.

I personally really like Kruger as he put up good measurables and backed up that on the field (led the Utes in sacks in 2012). He was considered the "best" pro prospect out of the three Kruger brothers and probably would have had an even bigger year had he stayed in school this next season. And, as I stated, he'll easily carry 300 lbs. on his frame and still maintain his athleticism. Plays hard as hell and loves the game.

He'd "easily" carry thirty additional pounds?

Have you ever had to gain weight? It's really hard, especially when you're an elite freaking athlete like Kruger. Gaining even something like ten pounds can affect you.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

He'd "easily" carry thirty additional pounds?

Have you ever had to gain weight? It's really hard, especially when you're an elite freaking athlete like Kruger. Gaining even something like ten pounds can affect you.

Hell, I just lost 25 lbs. in a month and a half. I don't even notice it.

Kruger could put on 20 lbs. on his legs and ass and you wouldn't even notice he did it. He's got a big frame that can easily carry 30 lbs. without even stressing his physical capabilities. Especially if he's playing a 34 DE position. Will help with his strength as well.

This frame can easily carry 30+ more lbs.:





He's nowhere close to being maxed out.

I think you need to consider how 30 lbs. spreads out on a 6'6 1/2" frame like that. You wouldn't even notice it.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Hell, I just lost 25 lbs. in a month and a half. I don't even notice it.

First of all, congratulations!

Second of all, you're a lying mother****er. There's no way you can't notice that. You're probably more fit, lighter, probably stronger unless you lost the weight due to illness (in which case, I rescind the congrats...).

I really don't like it when teams ask players to put on or lose weight, and I dislike how people frequently say "well we'll have the guy put on/lose 15+ pounds" like it's nothing. The player is at the weight that he chose and will undoubtedly play the most enthusiastically at -- a 10 pound correction isn't that bad, but anything beyond that and you're turning him into another player. Only in the latest rounds of the draft should you try something like that, or in extreme cases where a player is clearly not physically fit (like Terrance Cody's 30 pound weight loss for the Ravens).

But Kruger is very fit. And he probably can put on 30 pounds, but why not get a guy who's already there rather than trusting Kruger can gain 30 pounds and play the same?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

First of all, congratulations!

Second of all, you're a lying mother****er. There's no way you can't notice that. You're probably more fit, lighter, probably stronger unless you lost the weight due to illness (in which case, I rescind the congrats...).

Really. Don't notice it at all. Face looks a little bit leaner, but that's about it. It's all how you, as a person/individual, carry the weight.

Starting Feb. 1, I was 226 lbs. Right now, I'm 197. (Just went up and stepped on the scale.) I seriously don't feel a bit different. Definitely not stronger though. It's amazing how 20/25 lbs. puts on your ability to pump bigger iron.

I really don't like it when teams ask players to put on or lose weight, and I dislike how people frequently say "well we'll have the guy put on/lose 15+ pounds" like it's nothing. The player is at the weight that he chose and will undoubtedly play the most enthusiastically at -- a 10 pound correction isn't that bad, but anything beyond that and you're turning him into another player. Only in the latest rounds of the draft should you try something like that, or in extreme cases where a player is clearly not physically fit (like Terrance Cody's 30 pound weight loss for the Ravens).

But Kruger is very fit. And he probably can put on 30 pounds, but why not get a guy who's already there rather than trusting Kruger can gain 30 pounds and play the same?

Because you're talking about a 21 year old guy who has been working out and playing football all the time. And has been eating college cafeteria food. The weight gain for a guy like Kruger isn't going to be a big deal at all. That's a single off-season in an NFL weight room with a better diet.

You take a guy like Kruger, with that frame, athleticism and raw strength, and project him to the 34 end position at 30 lbs. heavier. The 30 lbs. adds to his strength and ability to drive block. His 40 speed is irrelevant due to the position. He's not Dion Jordan or Barkevious Mingo, outside speed rushers who need that twitch speed, where 30 lbs. is going to probably affect that initial burst. 30 lbs. on guys like Hunt or Kruger - big, long, lean dudes who are going to have to man on man 320 lbs. guards and tackles is a good thing.

[Saccopoo]

Newly modified.

[RunKC]

I love Phillip Thomas. I think he's a guy who can come in and make a big impact now and the future.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I love Phillip Thomas. I think he's a guy who can come in and make a big impact now and the future.

He's a ready now type of guy. Red shirt senior that has had very good production throughout his college career. Reminds me a lot of the guy I really liked in 2010 - Morgan Burnett, who, coincidently, statistically had the best year of all NFL safeties in 2012.

The only question mark with Thomas is that he's had slight injuries over his college career with the big one being a broken leg prior to the start of the 2011 season. However, he did come back with a legendary level season in 2012, so it doesn't seem to be a problem.

Became the first player in Fresno State history to be an unanimous All-American … named a first-team All-American by the AFCA, Associated Press, FWAA, Sporting News and Walter Camp Football Foundation … one of three finalists for the Jim Thorpe Award that goes to the top defensive back in the nation … received the College Football Performance Awards Defensive Back Trophy … his eight interceptions leads the nation and has set a new MW single-season record. It is also the most picks by a Bulldog in 27 years … He individually has more interceptions than 29 FBS teams have this year, including four Mountain West teams … returned three interceptions for touchdowns, which has set a new school single-season record, tied the Mountain West record, tied for the national lead and is one off the NCAA record … his nine total take-aways on the year (eight interceptions, one fumble recovery) are is tied for the most from any one player in the FBS … No. 3 in the MW with 12.0 tackles for a loss and he also has four sacks on the season … forced four fumbles on the year and that mark tied for the Mountain West lead and ranked sixth nationally

[Sorter]

I think that being able to concentrate full time on football and NFL weight programs would help Kruger put on substantial "effective" weight.