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Old 04-28-2013, 03:03 PM  
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Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on.
It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins
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Old 08-15-2013, 03:55 PM   #826
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Now Geno is no better than Bray.

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Old 08-15-2013, 04:08 PM   #828
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Now Geno is no better than Bray.

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No actually I think its Bray will be > than Geno.

Geno is going to be so average thats not really an accomplishment though.
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Old 08-15-2013, 04:15 PM   #829
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No actually I think its Bray will be > than Geno.

Geno is going to be so average thats not really an accomplishment though.
A lot of times qbs who go to crap situations, end up being worse than qbs who go to great situations.

This could be the situation that Geno, and Bray face. Bray went to a fabulous situation, where Geno Smith went to a situation, that is pretty comparable on offense to what Alex Smith was drafted into.....
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Bray had accuracy and headcase issues that placed him far below Geno as a prospect.

And he didn't have as much college production.

He also has a funky windup/release, and 6-6, 200 lbs is beanpole city. Bray might get broken in half in a real game.

There's no ****ing way Geno=Bray.
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Old 08-15-2013, 04:42 PM   #832
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Bray had accuracy and headcase issues that placed him far below Geno as a prospect.

And he didn't have as much college production.

He also has a funky windup/release, and 6-6, 200 lbs is beanpole city. Bray might get broken in half in a real game.

There's no ****ing way Geno=Bray.
Geno's a fairly slight guy as well. And Geno's release also leaves much to be desired, at least through the lower half. Geno has as much work to do with his feet as Bray does. Bray needs to anchor better, Geno needs to rotate through better. Both guys have lower body issues.

Yes, Bray has more work to do, but Bray has more natural talent than Smith.

You're really underestimating how far Geno has to to get to greatness.

There's a much better chance that Geno becomes an adequate NFL starter than Bray. But there is about a dead even chance that either one of them becomes a star.

Alex Smith is Geno Smith's most likely outcome, truth be told. Unemployed is Bray's most likely outcome.

Like I said - the true difference in value comes from their respective floors.
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Geno's a fairly slight guy as well.
Yeah, but he's 6-2. He has a typical NFL QB body. Bray is REALLY skinny.

Geno isn't perfect, no. But there are reasons he was mocked in the 1st for months and Bray dropped like a rock.

To say they are the same guy is intellectually dishonest.
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Bray had accuracy and headcase issues that placed him far below Geno as a prospect.

And he didn't have as much college production.

He also has a funky windup/release, and 6-6, 200 lbs is beanpole city. Bray might get broken in half in a real game.

There's no ****ing way Geno=Bray.
And yet, just last August, you said he was a Top Five draft choice in 2013.

My how your view has changed.
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And yet, just last August, you said he was a Top Five draft choice in 2013.

My how your view has changed.
For the record, I think Bray was drafted way too low.

ALL of the QBs got unfairly victimized by this post-RGIII/Luck world we're currently living in.
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For the record, I think Bray was drafted way too low.

ALL of the QBs got unfairly victimized by this post-RGIII/Luck world we're currently living in.
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Yeah, but he's 6-2. He has a typical NFL QB body. Bray is REALLY skinny.

Geno isn't perfect, no. But there are reasons he was mocked in the 1st for months and Bray dropped like a rock.

To say they are the same guy is intellectually dishonest.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...ray?id=2540173

how's 232 skinny?
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The guy is built like a 6-6 version of Brodie Croyle.

In fact, the Chiefs list him at only 215, and that's probably an exaggeration.

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The guy is built like a 6-6 version of Brodie Croyle.

In fact, the Chiefs list him at only 215, and that's probably an exaggeration.
he weighed 232 at the combine
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