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Old 08-23-2015, 06:03 PM  
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Cris Carter in hot water for telling rookies to "have a fall guy"

This is from last year, but apparently now just coming to light. It was on the NFL's website.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ve-a-fall-guy/

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Cris Carter urged NFL rookies to have a “fall guy”
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 23, 2015, 4:39 PM EDT

A recent ESPN feature on former 49ers linebacker Chris Borland described Borland as “appalled” by what he heard at the 2014 Rookie Symposium, when a former NFL player told the rookies that they should have a “fall guy” in their crew who would take the blame if they faced legal trouble. What ESPN failed to mention is that the former player who gave that appalling advice was an ESPN employee, Cris Carter.

Although the ESPN feature says that Borland “declined to name” the player, the writers easily could have identified Carter as the source of the comments, because the video of Carter’s presentation at the Rookie Symposium is available at NFL.com.

The presentation went basically how Borland described it in the ESPN feature: Carter told rookies that they should have one friend who will be willing to take the blame if they ever get into trouble. Warren Sapp, onstage along with Carter, agreed.

“If you all got a crew, you got to have a fall guy in the crew,” Carter said. “If you all have a crew, one of those fools got to know, he’s the one going to jail. We’ll get him out.”

Sapp then repeated, “We’ll get him out.”

Those comments didn’t sit well with Borland, and they likely won’t sit well with most people hearing them now. But the NFL apparently didn’t have a problem with what Carter said: His presentation was posted on the league’s own website, and Carter was invited back to speak at this year’s Rookie Symposium.

UPDATE 5:23 p.m. ET: Shortly after we posted this item, NFL.com removed the video.
Someone uploaded a clip of the video with their cell phone. Teddy Bridgewater gets used as the example. I can't believe the NFL had this on their website.


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Good thing for Carter he's black. If he were white and said that he'd have been fired by now.
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When are people from the ghetto going to figure out that there are expectations of what kind of behavior is expected out of people?
Seeing as it hasn't happened yet, I'm not holding my breff.

Seeing as the same type of people act the same way whether they are "from the ghetto" or not, I have to wonder if it's really such an environmental issue...gnomesaine??
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When are middle class white people going to figure out ... It is what it is. These kids from the hood aren't going to be perfect citizens like the overland park pill poppers who were brought up with excellent educations
When are black people going to realize that if they act like animals, that they should be treated like animals??

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Cris Carter: Engage in obstruction of justice to maximize your earning potential.
NFL: We approve of this message.

The controversy shouldn't revolve around Cris Carter, but rather the NFL, who sponsored the event, and viewed the message as being solid enough to put up a video on their web site. We all know that the NFL doesn't care about their players' legal infractions directly, but only about the associated bad PR. Fair enough. But how stupid do they have to be to taunt the public with that fact?

We constantly hear about how the NFL influences children as well as all the lower levels of the sport.
I think some are forgetting that the NFL just sent this message to those same children looking up to the NFL players.
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You guys DO know that a white dude can have a fall guy too, right?
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You guys DO know that a white dude can have a fall guy too, right?

They don't need one. No white guy has ever broken the law, ever.
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When you tell them


Go tell them. I dare you.
Society has been doing it for years. They just don't want to hear it, and then blame it on everyone else. Oh the oppression......
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You guys DO know that a white dude can have a fall guy too, right?
No they shouldn't have the need either. Stop trying to make this about race.
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Why is it that people turn to the race card when they know they are defeated on a moral level?
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Posts like this are such bullshit. So since these kids come from a rough area and have opportunities to better themselves through sports, they shouldn't be expected to act like responsible adults? And on top of that, we should teach them to make sure if/when they do something stupid that they shouldn't be held responsible for their actions and **** over one of their friends to avoid the consequences of their decisions?

This message just illustrates what a stupid piece of shit Cris Carter is. I don't care how many speeches he gives detailing his past mistakes and how he learned from them and is a better man now. This speech proves he's full of shit.
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LoneWolf nails it right here.

It's all about ACCOUNTABILITY.

My parents did drugs. I grew up in Independence...and through the 90s, the place was truly the Meth capital of the world.

I did lots of the shit - it was everywhere, everyone was doing it, and it was always cheap (or free). My parents, my cousins, my schoolmates...everyone I knew (except my grandparents) was doing the meff. There was theft, fencing of stolen goods, sex with women (young and older), LOTS of rock and roll...

One day, about a week before my 16th birthday, I woke up, and wondered what I was going to do with my life. I realized that MY life was in MY hands, and that I was tired of doing what I was doing.

I left home that day, haven't looked back. Got my own apt. There have been hiccups on the road, but I don't regret anything. Ever since I became accountable for my own actions, and did not blame any of my actions on where I came from, what my parents did or didn't do, what everyone was doing back home, etc.

I am responsible for me and and my actions. ME

Where I grew up has absolutely NOTHING to do with my actions today.

I like that.
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Why is it that people turn to the race card when they know they are defeated on a moral level?
Because they have nothing else to play.

Logic and cognitive processes sure aren't on their side.
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No they shouldn't have the need either. Stop trying to make this about race.


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Is that the reason there is so much outrage when this same shit happens to Caucasians? You know all of the media outrage and viral videos towns destroyed....Oh yeah shit what was I thinking that shit never happens.
You are a racist POS sire.
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Why is it that people turn to the race card when they know they are defeated on a moral level?
It's called trolling and people like you just gobble it up.
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