Forced Vaccinations are on the way.

[BIG_DADDY]

After failing miserably across the country even with all the endless campaign contributions, Big Pharm have their eye’s set on the People’s Republic of California where it is business as usual even as 3 senators are being charged with criminal misconduct. As California goes so does the rest of the country, right? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/04/us...dals.html?_r=0

California has two proposals right now SB277 mandatory vaccination for all kids in school. SB792 mandatory vaccines for all day care facilities and providers. I have been to every hearing on SB277 open to the public and one on 4/29 on SB792. Some of the teeth of bill SB277 are currently being pulled due to legal concerns. Personal exemptions will be honored until that student goes to another school. Over 2k people overtook the capitol 4th floor protesting. This received a mainstream media blackout. On that note I would like to clear up some deceptions and outright lies. The media is dividing society by labeling pro-vaxxers and non-vaxxers or anti-vaxxers. You probably think the latter do not do vaccines, right? Wrong, opt out of a single dose of our ridiculous schedule and that is what you are labeled which would be almost everyone in this forum unless you one of the unfortunate kids who are on the lab rat 69 doses in 17 vaccine schedule by 18yrs.
Next I got called to the mat by Dane who insists the affluent in high end private schools are all vaccinated. PBE’s are a personal belief exemption. Plug in any high end school right here and see for yourself. I would suggest starting with the Waldorf School. http://ww2.kqed.org/stateofhealth/20...l-online/#find

So let me get this straight, people who can afford the very best doctors have the highest PBE’s? Don’t doctors, scientists and health care workers who all see the damage that is caused by vaccines have some of the highest PBE rates? Absolutely

http://vaccinefactcheck.org/2015/03/...-vaccinations/
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...fused-vaccine/
http://www.namv.org/

Do your own due diligence in this area, you will be shocked. Everything I have told you about the Sens Foundation, the Buck Institute and friends in the industry is absolutely true. It is hard to come out and be really vocal publicly when you are up against a 711 Billion Dollar behemoth dead set on destroying your career if you cross them.
Next, Fish said there is no $$$ in vaccines, once again you are being deceived. http://www.4-traders.com/news/Global...ket--20314140/
Back on topic, this is pretty much what is going on nationally and locally. http://www.bolenreport.com/autism/an...ine%20yes8.htm

I will add additional links of interest throughout this thread.

117 Vaccine injuries and deaths in three months alone
http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/march-...es-and-deaths/
Top Lobbying Industries
https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/to...e=i&showYear=a
Sharyl Attkisson CBS Emmy award winning 21 year investigative journalist.
https://sharylattkisson.com/what-the...utism-studies/
Science for Sale
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mar..._b_747325.html

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Playing Devil's advocate, how exactly is it exposing kids to risk if they are already vaccinated?

Not a big fan of evolution, are we?

If fewer people are vaccinated, more people become infected. Those who are infected have billions of viruses reproducing, which creates the potential for mutations. Those mutations can render vaccines less effective, further increasing infection rates, even making them ineffective.

That's why herd immunity is essential to public health.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Playing Devil's advocate, how exactly is it exposing kids to risk if they are already vaccinated?

http://shotofprevention.com/2011/04/...-unvaccinated/

Time and again, we hear this from parents who choose not to vaccinate their children.

“If your child is vaccinated, why are you worried about them catching anything from my child?”

This is a common response from parents when it is suggested that a purposely unvaccinated child poses a threat to others.

One thing that many parents may not understand is that while vaccinations are highly effective, and greatly decrease the chance of contracting preventable diseases, no vaccine is 100% effective. According to CDC reports, “most routine childhood vaccines are effective for 85% to 95% of recipients. For reasons related to the individual, some will not develop immunity.”

This explains why, during an outbreak of a vaccine preventable disease, an unvaccinated child can increase the risk of disease for everyone that may be exposed, even if the people who have been vaccinated vastly outnumber those who have not. It is not uncommon for a small portion of the vaccinated population to be infected, However, that does not prove that vaccinations are not effective. To truly understand the risks, you need to know more than just the number of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated who have become infected. You have to appreciate the percentages that are involved. For instance, this example offered on the CDC website, explains this concept quite clearly:


“In a high school of 1,000 students, none has ever had measles. All but 5 of the students have had two doses of measles vaccine, and so are fully immunized. The entire student body is exposed to measles, and every susceptible student becomes infected. The 5 unvaccinated students will be infected, of course. But of the 995 who have been vaccinated, we would expect several not to respond to the vaccine. The efficacy rate for two doses of measles vaccine can be higher than 99%. In this class, 7 students do not respond, and they, too, become infected. Therefore 7 of 12, or about 58%, of the cases occur in students who have been fully vaccinated.

As you can see, this doesn’t prove the vaccine didn’t work – only that most of the children in the class had been vaccinated, so those who were vaccinated and did not respond outnumbered those who had not been vaccinated. Looking at it another way, 100% of the children who had not been vaccinated got measles, compared with less than 1% of those who had been vaccinated. Measles vaccine protected most of the class; if nobody in the class had been vaccinated, there would probably have been 1,000 cases of measles.”

When we consider this in relation to what is currently happening in our own communities today, we see why there is reason for the vaccinated to be concerned. For instance,

In Minnesota:

According to the Minnesota Department of Health, a recent measles outbreak was caused in part by former doctor and medical researcher Andrew Wakefield’s influential but fraudulent study suggesting a connection between child vaccination and autism. Due to his influence, many children in a Somali community there have chosen not to have their children immunized. Unfortunately, one of these unvaccinated children, was identified with measles after returning from a trip to Kenya. Currently, 15 cases have since been identified, five of which were too young to have received the vaccine, six were of age but were not vaccinated, one was vaccinated and three have unknown vaccine status, with a total of eight hospitalizations having been reported so far.

In Virginia:

A small private school in Roanoke, VA, was closed last week due to an outbreak of pertussis (more commonly known as whooping cough). The school, which does not require students to be vaccinated, has reported 30 confirmed cases; 23 of which have been among the school’s 45 students, the others among staff. Dr. Molly O’Dell, director of the New River Health District, explained that the infected children were not vaccinated, while the adults infected were never revaccinated with a booster shot. Unfortunately, many adults do not realize that their immunity to pertussis wanes over time, and that a booster shot is suggested for continued immunity.

In Utah:

In Utah, a confirmed case of measles first appeared in an unvaccinated teen who returned from a trip to Europe. Since then, three other cases have been confirmed, none of which were vaccinated. Now, with six other suspected cases and a trail of possible exposure, it appears that the measles may have spread to four different schools. Gary Edwards, executive director of the Salt Lake Valley Health Department explained that “The vaccine is very effective against this illness,” which is why children who have not been adequately vaccinated will be temporarily excluded from school in order to contain any further spread of the disease.

In each of these instances, it is completely possible that some vaccinated children may become infected. However, it has been the unvaccinated children who have been shown to introduce the disease into these communiies. These modern day examples are just a few of the many instances that occur all over the country at any given time. These examples also serve to answer why a vaccinated person might be concerned about contracting a disease from the relatively small unvaccinated segment of the population.

Perhaps this video, by Shane Killion, brought to our attention by Gary Attarian on our Vaccinate Your Baby Facebook page, can further help to illustrate this phenomenon by providing a simulation of what is referred to as herd immunity. It can be effective in helping people understand how vaccine refusal can impact an entire community, even if that community is mostly vaccinated. The dots on the screen represent either vaccinated or unvaccinated people. The video then uses percentages to demonstrate the impact of a disease and the public consequences of a vaccine refuser.



Hopefully, as parents gain a better understanding of vaccinations, they will also come to understand why the vaccinated population might be concerned about vaccine refusal.

Unfortunately, public health is just that. Public. And one person’s vaccination decisions impacts the health of many others, whether they realize it or not.

[teedubya]

The one thing that I would caution about mandatory vaccinations. If every American is forced to take whatever-the-state-says-you-have-to-take as a mandatory "vaccination". That is a slippery slope.

If Big Pharm is behind it. Imagine, they could plant the seed of future illness into every citizen. Thus insuring future profits.

That's only one sinister thing that corrupt leaders could concievably do.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by teedubya

The one thing that I would caution about mandatory vaccinations. If every American is forced to take whatever-the-state-says-you-have-to-take as a mandatory "vaccination". That is a slippery slope.

If Big Pharm is behind it. Imagine, they could plant the seed of future illness into every citizen. Thus insuring future profits.

That's only one sinister thing that corrupt leaders could concievably do.

No one trusts big pharma. They are not to be trusted. You come up with a federal standard dose and vaccine.

Unless you are saying the government or the community itself make the vaccine, then we are stuck with big pharma.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by teedubya

The one thing that I would caution about mandatory vaccinations. If every American is forced to take whatever-the-state-says-you-have-to-take as a mandatory "vaccination". That is a slippery slope.

If Big Pharm is behind it. Imagine, they could plant the seed of future illness into every citizen. Thus insuring future profits.

That's only one sinister thing that corrupt leaders could concievably do.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'd definitely throw down $100 for May-Pac II if the undercard featured an unvaccinated pitbull rabidly disemboweling BD.

I'd throw in an extra $10 if the pitbull is lesbian/bi-sexual, like all women

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Dude what are you talking about?
It has been the law for decades that all kids in any public school have to have their vaccinations before being allowed to attend school. It has been that way in MO since 1976. I still have a copy of my original shot records for when I started school. This is also the case for colleges as well.
This is nothing new by any means.

This is true. I was suspended from school in 1976 in 7th grade for not having all my vaccinations. I had to get them before I was allowed back in school. There was a long line of kids at the county free clinic whose parents felt like BD and didn't want to pay for shots. I liked it because I got out of school and got to hang out in line with a girl I liked.

Measles is making a come back because of people like BD. What is next, small pox?

[007]

Hell, I figured they were already required.

[BucEyedPea]

Bring back measles parties.

Cripes, it's just a childhood illness that was once a rite of passage. We're becoming a nation of wimps.

People have rights in this country. There is a right to refuse medical treatment. It also violates medical ethics to force any. Just a reminder to the health fascists.

There are many other plausible reasons for any increase in things like measles—such as our failed govt's policies on illegal immigration. In fact, I suspect govt's want this is to prepare for more waves of illegal immigration. It won't be just measles, mumps and rubella we'll fear. But things like TB.

[Silock]

Why the **** would you want your child to contract measles, which is a disease that can have SERIOUS consequences, when you can just vaccinate and not have to worry about it? I wish they had had a chicken pox vaccine when I was a kid. **** that shit.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by Silock

Why the **** would you want your child to contract measles, which is a disease that can have SERIOUS consequences, when you can just vaccinate and not have to worry about it? I wish they had had a chicken pox vaccine when I was a kid. **** that shit.

That happens to few people. Usually with compromised immune systems, other health issues or who live in third world countries. You can say some die from vaccines too. That has happened too.

Besides, if you kid is immunized what do you care if another doesn't.

[007]

Originally Posted by Silock

Why the **** would you want your child to contract measles, which is a disease that can have SERIOUS consequences, when you can just vaccinate and not have to worry about it? I wish they had had a chicken pox vaccine when I was a kid. **** that shit.

I got chicken pox when I was 31. That shit sucked.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

That happens to few people. Usually with compromised immune systems, other health issues or who live in third world countries. You can say some die from vaccines too. That has happened too.

Besides, if you kid is immunized what do you care if another doesn't.

Because even if you're vaccinated, you can still catch it. An explanation for this was posted literally less than 10 posts ago.

1 in 5,000 people with measles will die. The death rate from the vaccine is much, much lower.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by Guru

I got chicken pox when I was 31. That shit sucked.

Holy damn!

[SPchief]

Heh, way take this to DC dumb ****. How many times does it have be posted?

http://shotofprevention.com/2011/04/...-unvaccinated/