NFL Draft Scott Pioli would draft Tyson Jackson all over again - Page 5

Kerberos · 04-17-2011, 12:55 PM

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Scott Pioli would draft Tyson Jackson all over again
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 17, 2011, 1:21 PM EDT

Before Peter King put Tyson Jackson third in his Sports Illustrated Mock Draft two years ago, no one thought Jackson was even a top-15 pick. And wouldn’t you know: Jackson went third to the Chiefs in a stunning choice.

Jackson was supposed to be a safe, if unflashy building block to Kansas City’s 3-4 defense. Perhaps an answer to New England’s Ty Warren. It hasn’t worked out that way so far, but Chiefs G.M. Scott Pioli said he would make the same pick all over again.

“I’d take the same player again,” Pioli said this week via Bob Gretz.com. “Absolutely. Absolutely.”

Hmmm. We suppose Pioli has to say that, but it defies belief. Jackson only started three games last year. The same draft class included defenders like B.J. Raji, Brian Cushing, and Brian Orakpo in the top 15 picks.

We know sack numbers aren’t a big deal for 3-4 defensive ends, but Jackson has one in two seasons. He was arguably the fourth best end on his team last year behind Wallace Gilberry, Glenn Dorsey, and Shaun Smith.

“I know the jury is still out [on Jackson]; we all need to see that,” Pioli said. ”Everyone in our organization is pretty confident still that Tyson is going to be a good player.”

We need to see it soon. Jackson isn’t a Vernon Gholston-type bust, but there’s no spinning the fact a lot more is expected out of a top-3 pick.

**SAUTO** · 04-17-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

This is absurd already.

He's in the perfect situation and the likelyhood that could be duplicated here is massively questionable.

Agreed.
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BWillie · 04-17-2011, 08:04 PM

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Repost. And what do you expect him to say?
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no kidding. what are you guys expecting him to do...say nope tyson is still on our team and we really didn't want him had we known he would perform like he has

chiefsnorth · 04-17-2011, 08:07 PM

You can't say anything other than that. Even if Jackson were gone, you'd still just say that you felt you made the right call with what you knew then and there is risk involved in every draft pick. It's really a meaningless question. I'm glad that publicly he is backing his players 100%, so long as privately the organization is committed to doing every last thing they can to get something out of that investment.

**Bugeater** · 04-17-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

no kidding. what are you guys expecting him to do...say nope tyson is still on our team and we really didn't want him had we known he would perform like he has

Well, yeah.

-King- · 04-17-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=939

Peyton Manning 19:7
Matt Cassel: 16:3

Against common opponents.

You see how bullshit that comparison is right?

**SAUTO** · 04-17-2011, 08:45 PM

Lol
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ChiefsCountry · 04-17-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Peyton Manning 19:7
Matt Cassel: 16:3

Against common opponents.

You see how bullshit that comparison is right?

About the same bullshit comparison that you used early.

-King- · 04-17-2011, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

About the same bullshit comparison that you used early.

So you think Mark Sanchez would have been 27-7 on this team? Without Holmes, Edwards, Cotchery, Keller, B. Smith.

Shit, their #4 WR was better than our #2.

Basically, the point is, we would be in no better situation with Sanchez. We'd probably be worse off.

**SAUTO** · 04-17-2011, 09:20 PM

Imo at this point we would be much worse off
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keg in kc · 04-17-2011, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Yeah he played so horrible that he took them to AFC Championship Game both years.

Even Trent Dilfers make Superbowls.

Unfortunately for the Jets, Sanchez isn't a Trent Dilfer yet.

Doesn't mean he can't be in time.

ChiefsCountry · 04-17-2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Basically, the point is, we would be in no better situation with Sanchez. We'd probably be worse off.

Bullshit we would be in a better situation.

Al Bundy · 04-17-2011, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Bullshit we would be in a better situation.

You guys would be way better off with Josh Freeman than you would be with Mark Dilfer.

Al Bundy · 04-17-2011, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

So you think Mark Sanchez would have been 27-7 on this team? Without Holmes, Edwards, Cotchery, Keller, B. Smith.

Shit, their #4 WR was better than our #2.

Basically, the point is, we would be in no better situation with Sanchez. We'd probably be worse off.

If Tampa Bay and the Jets switched QB's the Jets would have been hoisting the Lombardi trophy and the Buccaneers would have been 0-16.

Rams Fan · 04-17-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Bullshit we would be in a better situation.

No, you wouldn't be. The best QB from that 1st round(unless Stafford becomes healthy) is Freeman.

Frankie · 04-17-2011, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

No, you wouldn't be. The best QB from that 1st round(unless Stafford becomes healthy) is Freeman.

I agree.

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Kerberos Chiefs Baby Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Henderson, NV Casino cash: $10000632	Scott Pioli would draft Tyson Jackson all over again http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ll-over-again/ Scott Pioli would draft Tyson Jackson all over again Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 17, 2011, 1:21 PM EDT Before Peter King put Tyson Jackson third in his Sports Illustrated Mock Draft two years ago, no one thought Jackson was even a top-15 pick. And wouldn’t you know: Jackson went third to the Chiefs in a stunning choice. Jackson was supposed to be a safe, if unflashy building block to Kansas City’s 3-4 defense. Perhaps an answer to New England’s Ty Warren. It hasn’t worked out that way so far, but Chiefs G.M. Scott Pioli said he would make the same pick all over again. “I’d take the same player again,” Pioli said this week via Bob Gretz.com. “Absolutely. Absolutely.” Hmmm. We suppose Pioli has to say that, but it defies belief. Jackson only started three games last year. The same draft class included defenders like B.J. Raji, Brian Cushing, and Brian Orakpo in the top 15 picks. We know sack numbers aren’t a big deal for 3-4 defensive ends, but Jackson has one in two seasons. He was arguably the fourth best end on his team last year behind Wallace Gilberry, Glenn Dorsey, and Shaun Smith. “I know the jury is still out [on Jackson]; we all need to see that,” Pioli said. ”Everyone in our organization is pretty confident still that Tyson is going to be a good player.” We need to see it soon. Jackson isn’t a Vernon Gholston-type bust, but there’s no spinning the fact a lot more is expected out of a top-3 pick.
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chiefsnorth Veteran Join Date: Apr 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	You can't say anything other than that. Even if Jackson were gone, you'd still just say that you felt you made the right call with what you knew then and there is risk involved in every draft pick. It's really a meaningless question. I'm glad that publicly he is backing his players 100%, so long as privately the organization is committed to doing every last thing they can to get something out of that investment.
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