Has Anyone Else's life Been Affected by Police Brutality?

[whoaskew]

Over the past couple months, there have been many instances of police brutality and police killings being reported that have garnered national attention – Mike Brown, Andrew Scott Gaynier, Ezell Ford, Dillon Taylor, Dante Parker, Omar Abrego, Jacinto Zavala, Diana Showman, Michelle Cusseaux, Joshua Paul, Joseph Jennings, Guillermo Canas, Chris Lollie, Bryce Masters, and many, many others



I thought I should share my personal experience about how my life has been affected by Police Brutality:


While a senior at PSU, where he majored in accounting, my Dad was a victim of police brutality. He was driving home to KC for the weekend, when an 18 wheeler veered into his lane causing a wreck. The Police arrived, and saw that he was Black, so they beat him - breaking over a dozen bones and leaving him with permanent brain damage. Eventually my Dad received a settlement from the Police Department, but the money didn't erase what they did, and it surely didn't make up for all the lives that were affected in the process.

My mother was pregnant with me at the time this occurred, so I never even got a chance to develop a relationship with my Dad before the incident occurred. I remember telling my Dad I would be going to college in a small town, just like he did, and I remember him breaking down in tears begging me not to... swearing that if I went to college in a small town, someone would kill me before I made it to graduation, just like they tried to do to him. I kept that thought in the back of my mind, every day for the entire fours years that I attended Lincoln University, and especially during my junior and senior years when I commuted twice per week between Lincoln University in Jefferson City, MO and Kansas City, Missouri where I worked as a Supervisor at H&R Block.

I was fortunate that despite his injuries, my father lived to see my 30th birthday. That was long enough for him to see me graduate with my bachelor's degree in business, see the birth of both of his grandsons (my sons), and later saw me graduate with my master's degree in business. My father died at 52 years old, and while it was initially thought that his death was suspicious, it was later confirmed that his death was due to the brain damage caused by a stroke.

On the day my Dad died, I made this post on the planet - http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5845168 - and I am still grateful for all the support that I received during that time.


If you have any comments or experiences with police brutality, please share them below


P.S. For those that are interested, you can follow along as I make updates about this topic on my blog - http://www.asknigeljohnson.com/stop-police-brutality/

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Do you know who I am?
The captain of the very nearly state champion football team!

I meant it in terms of there was a legitimate reason for a baseball bat in the vehicle (sports)...

But you knew that, youre just being an assbergers **** again. Time for your ritalin, bruce.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by loochy

WTF?

Maybe long tenured officers in high cost of living areas like NYC or LA make that much.

I guarantee you that most don't make anywhere near that.

I think you need to be looking at about 100 k less than that - 50k per year is much more realistic.

Maybe you need to move / change jobs?

http://transparentcalifornia.com/sal...rosa/?&s=-base

page 11+ has a lot of just regular police officers....

http://transparentcalifornia.com/sal...age=11&s=-base


Read my original post....

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

how do they protect you?

I'm sure that when you attend a Chiefs game, and some drunk guy gets on top of you and starts decking you in the face, they will just sit there & watch.

When they see a suspicious person or terrorist in a public place, they'll just throw their hands up and go, well he hasn't broken any laws yet.

Police have to respond to domestic disturbances, nuisances, and many other things where they aren't enforcing any specific law.

[Mennonite]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

I meant it in terms of there was a legitimate reason for a baseball bat in the vehicle (sports)

A likely story.

[Ming the Merciless]

[BigRichard]

Sounds like a shitty thing to happen. Two questions for the OP. What year did that happen to your father? And did you experience anything like that in your college days?

[kcfanXIII]

The closest I've come is having a gun drawn on me as I reached for my paperwork. He said I was dressed like "someone out of SOA." I told him he watched too much tv. it was 8 in the morning and I was pulled over on my bike for not having a tag. It had literally ripped off the bike while I was riding down the highway. I was on my way to the DMV after work to replace the tag when I got pulled over. It was 8 in the morning and I was on my way to work. While I understand his thought process, I still think he was over zealous in brandishing his firearm. That is the closest I've ever come to any police abuse. Even in my younger days, my interactions with LEOs were always polite. I think the local PD does a pretty good job of hiring quality cops, and releasing the bad ones, because most of the people I know from here all have the same feelings about our police force. They do their job, and don't try to over step their boundaries. Can't ask for much more in a police force, IMHO.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I'm sure that when you attend a Chiefs game, and some drunk guy gets on top of you and starts decking you in the face, they will just sit there & watch.

When they see a suspicious person or terrorist in a public place, they'll just throw their hands up and go, well he hasn't broken any laws yet.

Police have to respond to domestic disturbances, nuisances, and many other things where they aren't enforcing any specific law.

Absent a special relationship between the police and the person(s) involved, or a state created danger, the police have no constitutional duty to protect. This has been dealt with at the U.S. Supreme court level.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Maybe you need to move / change jobs?

http://transparentcalifornia.com/sal...rosa/?&s=-base

page 11+ has a lot of just regular police officers....

http://transparentcalifornia.com/sal...age=11&s=-base


Read my original post....

I read your post.

Now you reply with information from a place with a high cost of living. Surely you have to know that it's not normal for policemen to make that much...

[whoaskew]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

I'm not going into details, but when I was 14 3 police officers beat the shit out of me while I was handcuffed to a rail mounted to the concrete wall at their police station.

My crime? My friend and I were walking home after a movie and they busted us for being out past the 10 oclock curfew... it was 10:07.

They also kept pointing guns at me and making jokes about murdering me, burying me in a field, and how nobody would know. So I got my ass whipped and my life threatened (one of the officers kept grabbing my junk too) because I was out past curfew. Procedure for such a case was for the officers to take the kids home to their guardian, instead they took us to a police station for entertainment.

I don't understand what satisfaction a person would get from terrorizing a 14 year old kid?

That is horrible, and there is no telling how many others had to go through that too

Originally Posted by Otter

Damn, I'm sorry to hear about this man. I'm originally from PA and no stranger to PSU. That place is pretty famous for over zealous police.

Originally Posted by J Diddy

I'm thinking perhaps he's talking about Pittsburg State University in Kansas

Yes, I meant Pittsburg State University in Kansas

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I got beaten and sprayed back in 2004 for simply walking next door to my buddy's apt who was having a party til the police showed up due to a noise violation....Cop with small man syndrome was trying to throw me down to the ground and it just wasn't working and he was screaming for me to stop resisting I just kept telling him I wasn't doing anything wrong and he's the one attacking me. Well he finally swung me down to the ground by my jacket and I landed on top of him......I was then handcuffed and arrested and charged for assault on LEO and resisting arrest...Independent witness across the parking lot witnesses the whole thing and was nice enough to testify and give written statement of what she saw plus much of this was caught on one of the squad cars...Justice was ****ing served.

I am glad that everything worked out for you.

Originally Posted by tooge

It's who askED you

Well, for many years I lived on a street named "Askew" so the name kind of stuck with me.

Originally Posted by Fish

So could you share any more details here? The police just arrived at the scene of a wreck and started beating on him because of his skin color? State troopers or police? Normally it would be state troopers that respond to a highway wreck, so that would make it a state matter.

Just curious.

I really would like to find out more details if I could, but not really sure where to find something like that out.

Of course I wasn't born yet when it occured so everything I was told was obviously second hand. But from what I was told, my father was driving his parent's car. 18 wheeler hits him, leaving the car totalled. Authorities arrive, and see that they found a Black man in a city that did not like Blacks.

Back in those days, they racists would often try to make examples of Blacks who they caught, which would usually consist of college students traveling through, just like my Dad. That is why Blacks would often have to travel on the highway in large groups, to minimize those types of confrontations. I guess this particular weekend, my Dad didn't have any friends or other cars traveling with him.

He was already injured in the wreck, the trucker admitted to being at fault, but of course they let the trucker go. When the trucker left, they commenced to beating my Dad on the side of the highway, then threw him in jail and kept him there for weeks or months, not sure which. My mother didn't know where he was. My grandparents didn't know where my Dad was either...

They only way my family found him was because my Grandpa had insurance on his car, and the insurance company started making phone calls, asking questions about the accident. That is what lead to my family finding out where my Dad was, and my Grandparents had to go get him from the jail, take him back to Kansas City, Kansas, and do their best to nurse him back to health.

Of course that ended his college career, and set his life on a much different path. Without my father in my life, my mother had to also drop out of college to focus on raising me. Even though she was from Wichita, Kansas, my mother moved to Kansas City, Missouri to be closer to my Dad and to assist my Grandparents in helping him.

At some point my Grandparents found a lawyer who was willing to take the case, which eventually lead to a settlement for my Dad.

Originally Posted by BWillie

This is simply not true. The police are there to do both. Serve & protect.

Sorry brother, that is simply not true:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_...ct_of_Columbia

http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/m...issue_id=72004

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1976377/posts

Originally Posted by BigRichard

Sounds like a shitty thing to happen. Two questions for the OP. What year did that happen to your father? And did you experience anything like that in your college days?

I was born in October 1978, so it must have occurred earlier that same year.

My Grandpa recently told me it happened near Mound City, Kansas, but I am not sure how accurate that is since my Grandpa's memory isn't what is used to be. I would love to look up the case and find out more details, but I don't know where to start to look that type of thing up.


I was pretty fortunate during my college days. I don't remember having many run ins with the Jefferson City PD... mostly just the campus police which was never a big deal.

[jd1020]

I've had a few shake my hand. It was horrible.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Yep. Lost my badge for putting some punk's head through a window. He had it coming, that prick. I'd do it again. All worked out well in the end anyway. Can't get away with anything anymore, what with all the damn cameras/cell phone use.

Coward.

[whoaskew]

So not only are they beating, shooting, and killing us... but now the cops are robbing us too?








http://7online.com/news/man-claims-c...pocket/342765/


By Jim Dolan
Friday, October 10, 2014 08:52AM
CONEY ISLAND (WABC) -- Did a New York police officer take cash right out of a man's pocket?

The Brooklyn District Attorney has video of the incident in question and he's investigating.

In the video, keep an eye on the right hand of the police officer, which goes into Lenard Joye's sweater pocket and comes out with what Joye claims is a wad of cash, which the police officer does not give back.

"Why you gonna take my money," you hear Joye say on the recording.

Instead, the officer sprays Joye with pepper spray and when his sister tries to identify the police officer, "Get his badge number, get his badge number," she says on the recording, she gets sprayed as well.

"It seems like it's a strong arm robbery, that they took his money, and then when he asked for it back, they maced him in the face," said Robert Marinelli, Joye's attorney.

Attorney Robert Marinelli represents the man who claims the police robbed him.

"Mr. Joye works full time, he has proof of where all that money came from, pays taxes, seemingly robbed by a member of the NYPD," Marinelli said.

A statement by the Police Benevolent Association Wednesday night said "A 35 second long video does not provide enough information about a police encounter to come to any conclusion." And then they blamed the person who documented the incident. "It is time to stop the amateur video activists who interfere with police operations." The NYPD said, "As a result of the allegations, the matter is under investigation by the Internal Affairs Bureau and the CCRB." They would not say if the officer was still working on the streets, but it's not just him.

On Friday the NYPD said that an investigation had determined that Joye was carrying $62 at the time of his arrest, not the $1,300 that his attorney claimed, and that police properly vouchered the confiscated $62.

However, an NYPD Internal Affairs investigation continues, particularly into the pepper spraying. The Brooklyn District Attorney's Office is also is investigating.

The officer, a 22-year veteran, has not been suspended and remains on patrol.

"There's one officer standing right next to him and at the end of the video you can see four or five officers just standing on the side and not taking any action," Marinelli said.

Eyewitness News showed the tape to people in the neighborhood.

"It's outrageous, it shouldn't be happening like that, you're supposed to be here to protect and serve, you know you are making people scared of you," a resident said.

"I just think it's too much, that's just too much now. It's good they caught it on camera because people get to see what's going on," another resident said.

Neither Joye or his sister were arrested. The cash was never accounted for.

[ThaVirus]

I've read about that with motorists. Hell, I may have read it in this thread; I don't remember.

Basically they pull motorists over and confiscate large sums of cash. Apparently there are some serious legal hoops to jump through get the money back that often makes it not even worth it to try.

[whoaskew]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I've read about that with motorists. Hell, I may have read it in this thread; I don't remember.

Basically they pull motorists over and confiscate large sums of cash. Apparently there are some serious legal hoops to jump through get the money back that often makes it not even worth it to try.

According to the news reporter in the video, in this case the officer didn't turn the money in to the department, he didn't file any police reports, he didn't even issue any tickets to anybody during the stop. He literally just took the man's money, put it in his pocket, then pepper sprayed both the man and his sister when they tried to read his badge number prior to the officer leaving the scene.

Fortunately, this incident was caught on video.