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Old 02-22-2018, 03:38 PM  
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Trump: “We have to do something” about violent video games, movies

Trump: “We have to do something” about violent video games, movies

SAM MACHKOVECH - 2/22/2018, 2:12 PM


In a White House meeting held with lawmakers on the theme of school safety, President Donald Trump offered both a direct and vague call to action against violence in media by calling out video games and movies.

"We have to do something about what [kids are] seeing and how they're seeing it," Trump said during the meeting. "And also video games. I'm hearing more and more people say the level of violence on video games is shaping more and more people's thoughts."

Trump followed this statement by referencing "movies [that] come out that are so violent with the killing and everything else." He made a suggestion for keeping children from watching violent films: "Maybe they have to put a rating system for that." The MPAA's ratings board began adding specific disclaimers about sexual, drug, and violent content in all rated films in the year 2000, which can be found in small text in every MPAA rating box.

The White House meeting also placed blame for last week's tragic school shooting in Parkland, Florida, on factors such as a lack of "mental institutions" in the United States and marked gun-free zones. "When they see 'this is a gun-free zone,' that means that nobody has a gun except them," Trump said. "Nobody is going to be shooting in the other direction. And they see that as such a beautiful target. They live for gun-free zones."

Trump did not acknowledge recommendations for bans on assault-style weapons during the meeting. He instead used Twitter to recommend raising a minimum gun-buying age to 21 years and ending the sale of assault-rifle bump stocks.

CNN reached out to an unnamed 17-year-old Parkland High School student following Trump's remarks. When asked about the president's statement, the student replied, "That's just a really pathetic excuse on behalf of the president. I grew up playing video games, Call of Duty, all those first-person shooting games. I would never dream of taking the lives of any of my peers."

The news follows similar statements offered by Kentucky governor Matt Bevin (R) last week in the wake of the Parkland High School shooting. "There are games that literally replicate and give people the ability to score points for doing the very same thing that these students are doing inside of schools, where you get extra points for finishing someone off who's lying there begging for their life," Bevin said in the interview.

Kyle Orland's Ars report on the Bevin statement sums up a recent history of inconsistent and inconclusive studies about violent gaming's impact on young minds. Orland also digs into the modern history of politicians blaming or questioning violent video games' role and influence in shooting tragedies. Among those asking questions was President Barack Obama, who asked Congress in 2013 to "fund research into the effects that violent video games have on young minds." His 2013 call was part of a wider request to end the federal government's freeze on gun-violence research. Trump has yet to issue a statement about that ongoing bureaucratic freeze, which has essentially stymied gun-violence research since the passage of the Dickey amendment in 1996.

Trump previously used Twitter to place blame for a school shooting on violent media, saying days after the Sandy Hook school shooting in 2012, "Video game violence & glorification must be stopped—it is creating monsters!"

Trump himself was the star of a financial sim game, Donald Trump's Real Estate Tycoon, in 2002, but the only violent reactions it provoked came from critics.



https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/...-games-movies/
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:54 PM   #331
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:55 PM   #332
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You got this ****ed up without religious belief?

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Old 02-23-2018, 04:57 PM   #333
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That makes me sad.
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As much as people like to say that more die in the name of religion than anything else, more people probably died due to the atheist fascist and communist states that rose and fell in the 20th century than have ever died in all of history due to religion. Mao alone may have killed 50 million people in just 5 or so years.
Without a doubt, and GUN control is obviously only the answer if you liked those oppressive regimes.
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Old 02-24-2018, 07:25 AM   #335
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In a White House meeting held with lawmakers on the theme of school safety, President Donald Trump offered both a direct and vague call to action against violence in media by calling out video games and movies."We have to do something about what [kids are] seeing and how they're seeing it," Trump said during the meeting. "And also video games. I'm hearing more and more people say the level of violence on video games is shaping more and more people's thoughts."


https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/...-games-movies/
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Old 02-24-2018, 08:24 AM   #336
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Old 02-24-2018, 09:00 AM   #337
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People aren't perfect. That's why everyone, including you, want to impose moral values on them to one degree or another. Moral values aren't exclusively about sex and drugs.

Getting back to the topic, kinda, maybe a part of the problem with these shootings is that such a large percentage of our society no longer fears an afterlife based on moral judgment. We aren't going to fix that. And getting rid of video game, installing metal detector, arming teachers and banning so-called assault weapons isn't going to fix it either.
You are confusing immoral and illegal. Libertarians distinguish between them. There are things which should be illegal which are things that violate the rights of others ie murder, theft, assault, and fraud. Then there are things that may be immoral but shouldn't be illegal like adultery, drug use, lying, etc. What is is considered immoral differs between individuals and that is why those things shouldn't be illegal.

From a what should be illegal standpoint Libertarians agree that which violates the rights of other is illegal and immoral. What is immoral but not illegal is disparate between individuals. The non-aggression principle is based on the former not the latter.
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Old 02-24-2018, 10:00 AM   #338
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You are confusing immoral and illegal. Libertarians distinguish between them. There are things which should be illegal which are things that violate the rights of others ie murder, theft, assault, and fraud. Then there are things that may be immoral but shouldn't be illegal like adultery, drug use, lying, etc. What is is considered immoral differs between individuals and that is why those things shouldn't be illegal.

From a what should be illegal standpoint Libertarians agree that which violates the rights of other is illegal and immoral. What is immoral but not illegal is disparate between individuals. The non-aggression principle is based on the former not the latter.
No, I'm not. You're confusing your sense of right and wrong with something self-evident, just because it's extremely common.
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Fox news living in you head, and they just doubled the square-footage.
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Old 02-24-2018, 10:50 AM   #340
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Well so far we've come up with nothing new that'll help. I guess liberals are going to need to brush up on their prayer skills..

On a side note, I wonder how AR and AK sales are going? I wonder how many NRA memberships have been made by French and Zimbabwenese Bots to help keep the liberals triggered? Are bump-stock sales down?
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This may not be popular here but I think violent video games desensitize kids to killing...glorify it in some aspects. I don't think they'll make good kids go nuts, but the nut cases might act upon what they do everyday in their fantasies.
Yeah, there have been countless studies done.

It's not that your opinion is unpopular, it's that all empirical evidence shows it's just incorrect.
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America, sadly, is one of the most religious nations in the world and there are thousands of denominations with varying views.

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Without a doubt, and GUN control is obviously only the answer if you liked those oppressive regimes.
Cool story guys. Good luck fighting off F-35's and Abrams tanks with your little guns.
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