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Old 02-22-2018, 09:48 PM  
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Florida Shooting: Resource Officer Ran outside when he heard shit

It needed its own thread, this is a ****ing tragedy... I'm fine with looking at some things we can change still like background checks, bump stocks, etc.

But let's count the way the Government Failed shall we?

- school expelled kid for threat of violence v. Other students
(Admittedly they don't have much power)

-Local police are called to kids house 39 times over 7 year period
(No flagging on this kid or working to get him help)

-FBI received Tip about YouTube comment
(Claims they can't find kid, even tho user name is actual name)


-FBI received 2nd Tip Jan 2nd about this kid possibly doing a shooting at a school
(FBI did no communicate this to local authorities, or FBI field office)

-School resource offer runs away from gun shot from INSIDE the school building
(Coward piece of shit at least he gets his pension)

- two other Sherrie Deputies arrive minute into the shooting and refuse to enter
(They are currently suspended)


I don't know about you guys but this is a **** up which looks like it could of been prevented if not at least stopped much sooner.... I can't think of a better reasoning for the 2nd Amendment then the Governments complete list o **** ups than this.
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:53 PM   #76
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This school had a trained officer on site when the shooting went down.
Pretty hard to see how you can twist that into suggesting armed teachers would have made the difference.
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:59 PM   #77
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Pretty hard to see how you can twist that into suggesting armed teachers would have made the difference.
The biggest difference is that they can't choose to not go into the school, they're already with the students.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:09 PM   #78
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Still gives the algebra teacher a better chance then what he/she has today, which is to throw a protractor at the guy about to kill kids.
We all know the founding fathers meant protractors, compasses, and t-squares when they said "arms"
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:10 PM   #79
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And he failed.
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The situation is more likely with teachers seeing as how they wouldn't be trained half as well as the officers would.
You have no idea whether or not that's true, yet you assert it as if it's absolute fact.

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So yeah I'd still rather have 100% trained officers than 50% trained teachers if this situation unfolds.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:38 PM   #80
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You have no idea whether or not that's true, yet you assert it as if it's absolute fact.



There is no requirement that this be an either/or scenario.
I assume it's true because it's their jobs. Assuming that a resource officer would be better at their job than a teacher would isn't that big of a stretch. Just like I assume Patrick mahomes is better at passing the ball than Kareem hunt. I don't know for sure but that's a pretty same assumption.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:40 PM   #81
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The biggest difference is that they can't choose to not go into the school, they're already with the students.
It's also likely that the teacher will have a much more vested personal interest in the students, since he/she interacts with them, than a security guard, who probably never deals with anybody but the troublemaking punks and as a result just finds them to be an annoyance.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:48 PM   #82
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:24 PM   #83
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I assume it's true because it's their jobs. Assuming that a resource officer would be better at their job than a teacher would isn't that big of a stretch. Just like I assume Patrick mahomes is better at passing the ball than Kareem hunt. I don't know for sure but that's a pretty same assumption.
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It's not the same assumption. The NFL QB is doing something only a couple of handfuls of men in the world can do, and he has to spend hours each day in order to be able to do it. The resource officer is doing something any number of people can do, and the practice requirements are nowhere near as demanding.

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Old 02-23-2018, 07:51 PM   #84
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Probably a year from retirement.
Somebody is always a year from retirement. If that is your criteria for excluding someone from serving, you have to exclude everyone. For the system to work, we need to depend on these people every second they are on duty.
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:54 PM   #85
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Personal protection is up to the individual. Not some donut eating police officer.
Who does a 15 year old student depend on? Or 6 year old? Rational thought does not appear to have a home among the Rambo crowd.
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Old 02-23-2018, 08:00 PM   #86
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This school had a trained officer on site when the shooting went down.
The school had a 32 year (IE 53+ years old) officer that was counting down till retirement. It should have been staffed with a younger and more mentally/physically equipped officer.
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The school had a 32 year (IE 53+ years old) officer that was counting down till retirement. It should have been staffed with a younger and more mentally/physically equipped officer.
Ok, if we're going to start pointing to the age of a 53 year old cop as a problem, it's time to just nuke the entire planet and get it over with.
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Old 02-23-2018, 08:14 PM   #88
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Ok, if we're going to start pointing to the age of a 53 year old cop as a problem, it's time to just nuke the entire planet and get it over with.
Despite the fact that liberals like to paint these things as common occurrences, they are exceedingly rare, when you take into account the size of the country, the population and the number of high schools. This school is in a nice area, not south central LA. Was he the wrong guy for the job? Clearly. But cops are just people. You never know how somebody's going to react in a situation like that. It was just lightning strike bad luck that this guy was assigned to this school on that day.
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Like congressional offices and buildings.
Even a moron like you knows the security setups at both places are nothing alike.
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Who does a 15 year old student depend on? Or 6 year old?
Clearly not the SRO
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