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Scientists find cosmic ripples from birth of universe

Scientists find cosmic ripples from birth of universe

Published March 17, 2014


Astronomers have discovered what they believe is the first direct evidence of the astonishing expansion of the universe in the instant following the Big Bang -- the scientific explanation for the birth of the universe some 13.8 billion years ago.

Scientists believe that the universe exploded from a tiny speck and hurled itself out in all directions in the fraction of a second that followed, beginning just 10 to the minus 35 seconds (roughly one trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second) after the universe's birth. Matter ultimately coalesced hundreds of millions of years later into planets, stars, and ultimately us.

And like ripples from a ball kicked into a pond, that Big Bang-fueled expansion caused ripples in the ancient light from that event, light which remains imprinted in the skies in a leftover glow called the cosmic microwave background.

Scientists still don’t know who kicked the ball.

But if confirmed, the newfound ripples would be amazing proof of what has long been mere theory about what happened in those first millionths of a second.

“The implications for this detection stagger the mind,” said Jamie Bock, professor of physics at Caltech, laboratory senior research scientist at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) and project co-leader. “We are measuring a signal that comes from the dawn of time.”

"It would be the most important discovery since the discovery, I think, that the expansion of the universe is accelerating," Harvard astronomer Avi Loeb, who is not a member of the study team, told Space.com. He compared the finding to a 1998 observation that opened the window on mysterious dark energy and won three researchers the 2011 Nobel Prize in physics.

The groundbreaking results came from observations by BICEP2, a telescope at the South Pole, of the cosmic microwave background -- a faint glow left over from the Big Bang.

Beginning a fraction of a fraction of a second after the universe's birth, according to the current theory, space-time expanded incredibly rapidly, ballooning outward faster than the speed of light. The afterglow from that expansion is called the cosmic microwave background, and tiny fluctuations in it provide clues to conditions in the early universe.

For example, small differences in temperature across the sky show where parts of the universe were denser, eventually condensing into galaxies and galactic clusters.

Since the cosmic microwave background is a form of light, it exhibits all the properties of light, including polarization. On Earth, sunlight is scattered by the atmosphere and becomes polarized, which is why polarized sunglasses help reduce glare. In space, the cosmic microwave background was scattered by atoms and electrons and became polarized too.

“Our team hunted for a special type of polarization called ‘B-modes,’ which represents a twisting or ‘curl’ pattern in the polarized orientations of the ancient light,” said Bock.

The team presented their work at a press conference Monda at Harvard -- the discovery of that characteristic pattern of polarization in the skies, which they called proof of the gravitational waves across the primordial sky.

“This work offers new insights into some of our most basic questions: Why do we exist? How did the universe begin? These results are not only a smoking gun for inflation, they also tell us when inflation took place and how powerful the process was,” Harvard theorist Avi Loeb said.
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:42 AM   #166
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:43 AM   #167
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:49 AM   #168
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Supposedly it's all pink past the event horizon....
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:52 AM   #170
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What missing links do you feel are required to prove evolution?
Between Homoerectus and Homosapien, there's many micro evolutionary steps that have been discovered. That proves the possibility of a link between erectus and sapiens. Doesn't disprove a "clean sheet" design ie creationism, but what we have in front of us is what we have. The missing link is the "ape" that macro evolved into Homoerectus while all other primates stayed primitive.
Darwin didn't have knowledge of DNA and that's where it's getting exciting. Early DNA discoveries made darwinists jump to conclusions to fit their belief, their faith. Pigs, and Apes share a lot of DNA markers, so therefore they are relatives they espoused. Here again, jumping to a conclusion to fit an agenda or belief is another handicap of man. Recent DNA discovery unlocking more about DNA and is revealing that we're no more related by DNA than saying that our bodies are 90% water so we must be related.
I'm fine with either evolution or creation, because it doesn't disprove God, Christ, or the demon that I unfortunately know. Whether it's creation through a mythical poof or through a mythical macro evolution, doesn't matter to me.
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Old 03-19-2014, 10:02 AM   #173
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Between Homoerectus and Homosapien, there's many micro evolutionary steps that have been discovered. That proves the possibility of a link between erectus and sapiens. Doesn't disprove a "clean sheet" design ie creationism, but what we have in front of us is what we have. The missing link is the "ape" that macro evolved into Homoerectus while all other primates stayed primitive.
Darwin didn't have knowledge of DNA and that's where it's getting exciting. Early DNA discoveries made darwinists jump to conclusions to fit their belief, their faith. Pigs, and Apes share a lot of DNA markers, so therefore they are relatives they espoused. Here again, jumping to a conclusion to fit an agenda or belief is another handicap of man. Recent DNA discovery unlocking more about DNA and is revealing that we're no more related by DNA than saying that our bodies are 90% water so we must be related.
I'm fine with either evolution or creation, because it doesn't disprove God, Christ, or the demon that I unfortunately know. Whether it's creation through a mythical poof or through a mythical macro evolution, doesn't matter to me.
The problem with this is nobody seems to understand that nobody is saying we evolved from a monkey to homoerectus to homsapiens. All that it is saying is that we share a common ancestor.
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Old 03-19-2014, 10:15 AM   #174
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The problem with this is nobody seems to understand that nobody is saying we evolved from a monkey to homoerectus to homsapiens. All that it is saying is that we share a common ancestor.
I'll just leave you with this.
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Beautiful picture that isn't accurate? Thanks for sharing.
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Between Homoerectus and Homosapien, there's many micro evolutionary steps that have been discovered. That proves the possibility of a link between erectus and sapiens. Doesn't disprove a "clean sheet" design ie creationism, but what we have in front of us is what we have. The missing link is the "ape" that macro evolved into Homoerectus while all other primates stayed primitive.
Darwin didn't have knowledge of DNA and that's where it's getting exciting. Early DNA discoveries made darwinists jump to conclusions to fit their belief, their faith. Pigs, and Apes share a lot of DNA markers, so therefore they are relatives they espoused. Here again, jumping to a conclusion to fit an agenda or belief is another handicap of man. Recent DNA discovery unlocking more about DNA and is revealing that we're no more related by DNA than saying that our bodies are 90% water so we must be related.
I'm fine with either evolution or creation, because it doesn't disprove God, Christ, or the demon that I unfortunately know. Whether it's creation through a mythical poof or through a mythical macro evolution, doesn't matter to me.
Humans are not descended from homo erectus just like we aren't descended from neanderthals.
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I'll just leave you with this.
I'm not going to cut and paste a bunch of stuff from talkorigins.org because I'm certain you won't read it.

you can start here if you are really are curious. Its long and arduous to read all the articles, but if you really want to understand the origins of mankind you can't get it from a bumpersticker. Only a lot of reading.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/
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Humans are not descended from homo erectus just like we aren't descended from neanderthals.
So are you going with the ape or the guppie? There were many Homos after erectus including Neanderthals that are closer to sapien. Between those Homos is signs of micro evolution. There's nothing found before erectus that could have micro evolved into erectus. The difference between Neanderthals and sapiens is enormous.
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If you just want a quick run down of humanoid fossils that link all the "missing links" together go here. Very very partial but includes most of the more notable finds.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/specimen.html
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I'm not going to cut and paste a bunch of stuff from talkorigins.org because I'm certain you won't read it.

Here start here if you really are curious. Its long and arduous to read all the articles, but if you really want to understand the origins of mankind you can't get it from a bumpersticker. Only a lot of reading.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/
Your proven lack of credibility is what prevents me from clicking any link you provided. The picture just proved that someone believes that man came from ape. I however do not.
This link shows the link from erectus to sapien http://www.becominghuman.org/
Everyone has a link, I wait for facts to come in before jumping to conclusions.
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