Chiefs It has gone beyond embarrassing - Page 13

**petegz28** · 12-09-2012, 03:03 PM

When you lose the way we did against Cleveland you suddenly find yourself staring at 2-11 and being embarrassed would be an improvement. Today we saw in a nutshell the complete and utter stupidity that Pioli has spent the better part of 4 years putting together.

We bitched about this team early in the season, gave up on them mid-way and now actually root for a loss in hopes for a good draft spot. Unfortunately a new QB, regardless of who it is or how high he is drafted, is not going to help this sorry ass compilation of fail and suck.

Think about the mess Pioli has created in just under 4 years that we now have to clean up in a hurry, somehow.

1. No QB's
2. No WR's...Bowe will walk leaving us with nothing worth a ****
3. No LT, I expect Albert to walk from this abortion
4. No DE's, Dorsey will walk and TJ still sucks
5. No punter..Colquitt can walk this year
6. No secondary, save flowers
7. 1 RB worth a shit
8. No Center worth a ****
9. No HC worth a ****
10. No OC worth a ****
11. No DC worth a ****
12. No ST coach worth a ****
13. No kicker worth a ****

So as I see it, we need at least 2 QB's, 2 WR's, a center, 2 DE's, 2 CB's, 1-2 Safetys, a HC, an OC, a DC, a ST coach, a kicker, a punter and of course a new GM

/rant off

FlaChief58 · 12-10-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

If the QB and HC picks go right, we won't necessarily need more than half of those things. We can acquire them along the way as "Hey, this thing would be nice to have on the team" kind of picks.

Again, see Indianapolis.

This

The right GM, HC & QB will go a LONG way towards fixing this mess

Molitoth · 12-10-2012, 11:20 AM

This Chiefs season has been the biggest waste of talent I've ever seen on a team... except for possibly my Detroit Lions...

**1ChiefsDan** · 12-10-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Yup.

I don't give a $#it about draft value or projected slotting.

When it comes to QB we need one. Get one...

How ****ing hard is it to understand this? JFC, the "draft value" is out the window with the new CBA when you need a QB (or other high impact player).

GloryDayz · 12-10-2012, 11:43 AM

I'm sure they'd replace the fan-base too if they could.. Far too many of us are just mean people!

ROYC75 · 12-10-2012, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

There's simply NO WAY you can objectively say that, at least not at this point.

Barkley started 4 YEARS at USC. Matt Cassel started 4 QUARTERS...

At a position OTHER THAN QB.

I do not want KC to have anything to do but face this guy. His arm is weak, ala Matt Cassel. I don't care if he was a red shirt 5th year player. Stay away from being a member of he Chiefs.

htismaqe · 12-10-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

I do not want KC to have anything to do but face this guy. His arm is weak, ala Matt Cassel. I don't care if he was a red shirt 5th year player. Stay away from being a member of he Chiefs.

If he's the best QB on the board when they pick, they should take him.

And if, in 2 years, he turns out to be like you think he is, then they should draft another QB.

**Rain Man** · 12-10-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

If he's the best QB on the board when they pick, they should take him.

And if, in 2 years, he turns out to be like you think he is, then they should draft another QB.

This is the proper strategy in the modern NFL. Nothing else matters until you have a quarterback.

ROYC75 · 12-10-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

If he's the best QB on the board when they pick, they should take him.

And if, in 2 years, he turns out to be like you think he is, then they should draft another QB.

Tyler Bray has more upside in talent than Barkley. The problem with Bray is the maturity level and rather he can comprehend the NFL playbook.

We get 1 or 2, they better not use it on Barkley. Smith or Wilson is the only logical choice.

God forbid we end up at 3, As much as we need QB, I'm almost inclined to go elsewhere if Smith & Wilson are gone, take Bray top of the 2nd.

Smith 1 and Bray in the 2nd is intriguing. Fill in the gaps with the draft & FA with a new ( good staff ) administration and we are on to something.

ct · 12-10-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

For some reason I am just pissed about this loss. It's not that we lost but it's things like,

Breaston on the bench and we have no WR worth a ****
An OC that refuses to pass the ball regardless
The TO at the end of the half to only runa ****ing draw play

it's just the level of stupidity

We've been running hopeless draws all year to our 3rd down back, UDFA Shaun friggin Draughn. I know Jamaal can't survive 30 carries every week, but he sure as hell should be in on 90% of 3rd down passing situations.

htismaqe · 12-10-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

Tyler Bray has more upside in talent than Barkley. The problem with Bray is the maturity level and rather he can comprehend the NFL playbook.

We get 1 or 2, they better not use it on Barkley. Smith or Wilson is the only logical choice.

God forbid we end up at 3, As much as we need QB, I'm almost inclined to go elsewhere if Smith & Wilson are gone, take Bray top of the 2nd.

Smith 1 and Bray in the 2nd is intriguing. Fill in the gaps with the draft & FA with a new ( good staff ) administration and we are on to something.

If Bray is the best QB available, pick him.

ct · 12-10-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

Tyler Bray has more upside in talent than Barkley. The problem with Bray is the maturity level and rather he can comprehend the NFL playbook.

We get 1 or 2, they better not use it on Barkley. Smith or Wilson is the only logical choice.

God forbid we end up at 3, As much as we need QB, I'm almost inclined to go elsewhere if Smith & Wilson are gone, take Bray top of the 2nd.

Smith 1 and Bray in the 2nd is intriguing. Fill in the gaps with the draft & FA with a new ( good staff ) administration and we are on to something.

this
and that

ROYC75 · 12-10-2012, 01:22 PM

Guys, Matt Barkley is NOT going to be the best QB at 1 or 2 in the draft, NO WAY NO HOW !. No noodle arm QB is worth a 1 or 2 pick. If he smart as all get out, maybe in a WC offense or a version of a dink and dunk offense, OK. But damn he has to be accurate as hell, of which the times I've seen him, he wasn't.

htismaqe · 12-10-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

Guys, Matt Barkley is NOT going to be the best QB at 1 or 2 in the draft, NO WAY NO HOW !. No noodle arm QB is worth a 1 or 2 pick. If he smart as all get out, maybe in a WC offense or a version of a dink and dunk offense, OK. But damn he has to be accurate as hell, of which the times I've seen him, he wasn't.

What if we're picking 3rd?

Chief Roundup · 12-10-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

And the Jags will replace Gabbert in the draft.

They will have drafted TWO 1st-round QBs in ONE TENTH THE TIME WE'VE DRAFTED ONE.

Yeah oh boy. Lets knowingly throw away our top pick on a QB that won't get the job done. I would rather throw away a FA signing and let him suck than totally waste a draft pick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

There's simply NO WAY you can objectively say that, at least not at this point.

Barkley started 4 YEARS at USC. Matt Cassel started 4 QUARTERS...

At a position OTHER THAN QB.

Barkley is undersized, has a weak arm, played in a weak conference, had more talent around him than any other QB in this draft and he still couldn't lead that team anywhere and his stock is currently falling like a rock. Matt Barkley is not a good prospect at all.

Chief Roundup · 12-10-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

What if we're picking 3rd?

If we can we have to trade up or hope that Wilson or Smith falls to us. If none of those options pan out then we should trade back or take another position and then take which ever one of the next level QBs that they have evaluated as a player that they would also like or want. Whether that is at the top of the 2cd or trading back up into the first.

12-09-2012, 03:03 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2884127	It has gone beyond embarrassing When you lose the way we did against Cleveland you suddenly find yourself staring at 2-11 and being embarrassed would be an improvement. Today we saw in a nutshell the complete and utter stupidity that Pioli has spent the better part of 4 years putting together. We bitched about this team early in the season, gave up on them mid-way and now actually root for a loss in hopes for a good draft spot. Unfortunately a new QB, regardless of who it is or how high he is drafted, is not going to help this sorry ass compilation of fail and suck. Think about the mess Pioli has created in just under 4 years that we now have to clean up in a hurry, somehow. 1. No QB's 2. No WR's...Bowe will walk leaving us with nothing worth a ** 3. No LT, I expect Albert to walk from this abortion 4. No DE's, Dorsey will walk and TJ still sucks 5. No punter..Colquitt can walk this year 6. No secondary, save flowers 7. 1 RB worth a shit 8. No Center worth a 9. No HC worth a 10. No OC worth a 11. No DC worth a 12. No ST coach worth a 13. No kicker worth a ** So as I see it, we need at least 2 QB's, 2 WR's, a center, 2 DE's, 2 CB's, 1-2 Safetys, a HC, an OC, a DC, a ST coach, a kicker, a punter and of course a new GM /rant off
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