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Old 04-01-2013, 12:59 PM  
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The most damning evidence against Geno Smith yet.

Comes from the teams themselves, does it not?

Here's the top ten draft slots:

1. Kansas City Chiefs -- need a QB
2. Jacksonville Jaguars -- need a QB
3. Oakland Raiders -- need a QB
4. Philadelphia Eagles -- need a QB
5. Detroit Lions
6. Cleveland Browns -- need a QB
7. Arizona Cardinals -- need a QB
8. Buffalo Bills -- need a QB
9. New York Jets -- need a QB
10. Tennessee Titans

Of those 8 teams, you have a legit shot to draft Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, or Ryan Nassib.

What do these teams do?

Chiefs -- Alex Smith, Chase Daniel
Raiders -- Matt Flynn
Eagles -- re-up Michael Vick
Browns -- Jason Campbell
Cardinals -- Carson Palmer
Bills -- Kevin Kolb, Tavaris Jackson
Jets -- David Garrard

Only the Jags have left their hole at QB untouched, but seem to be favoring giving Gabbert one more shot. The Browns are a bit more debatable, as it's clear that Campbell is not a 16-game starter.
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:06 PM   #2
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whats up with stanzi is he still under contract?
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:08 PM   #3
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It is telling how these teams have passed on Smith for other QB's.
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:09 PM   #4
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Didn't the Cardinals get Stanton too?
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:12 PM   #5
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And this list of players available for the #1 overall pick provides the most damning evidence why he may still be in play...

1.Luke Joeckel OT Texas A&M
2.Eric Fisher OT Central Michigan
3.*Shariff Floyd DT Florida
4.*Dee Milliner CB Alabama (X)
5.Chance Warmack OG Alabama
6.Star Lotulelei DT Utah

7.Ziggy Ansah DE BYU
8.Lane Johnson OT Oklahoma
9.Dion Jordan LB Oregon
10.Geno Smith QB West Virginia
11.Jonathan Cooper OG North Carolina
12.*Cordarelle Patterson WR Tennessee
13.*Jarvis Jones LB Georgia (X)
14.*Bjoern Werner DE Florida State (X)

15.Tavon Austin WR West Virginia
16.*Barkevious Mingo LB LSU
17.*Xavier Rhodes CB Florida State
18.*Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri (O)
19.Desmond Trufant CB Washington
20.*Keenan Allen WR California
21.Kenny Vaccaro FS Texas
22.*D.J. Fluker OT Alabama
23.Datone Jones DE UCLA
24.*Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame

25.*Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:13 PM   #6
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C.J. Mosley's release another signal the Jaguars are likely to target a defensive lineman with the second pick in the draft

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Reading the tea leaves with the NFL draft just 24 days away, it is looking likely the Jaguars will target a defensive lineman with the second pick in the draft on April 25.

Jaguars general manager David Caldwell, who will be running his first draft, has said he likes to draft for need and the Jaguars have a major need in the defensive line.

That is why it won't be a surprise if they take Florida defensive tackle Sharrif Floyd or Oregon defensive end Dion Jordan with the second pick. Both are ranked as top five prospects.

The Jaguars also need help in the secondary so Alabama cornerback Dee Milliner could get a look, but improving the defensive line is more of a priority.

There's also been speculation they could look at quarterback Geno Smith but it would seem to be a reach to take him at the second slot.

Offensive lineman Luke Joeckel could be considered because they need a right tackle, but the Kansas City Chiefs are likely to take him with the first pick.

The Jaguars lost two defensive tackles in the offseason, Terrance Knighton,who signed with Denver as a free agent, and C.J. Mosley, who was released Monday and added only one, veteran Roy Miller. So Shariff could be a good fit.

Tyson Alualu is the only other tackle on the roster who has started a game in the NFL.

And they could use an upgrade at end because they had only 20 sacks last year. Which could make Jordan an enticing pick.

They have Jason Babin and Jeremy Mincey back as their two ends and they hope Andre Branch will take a step up in his second year after starting just three games as a rookie. Mincey also needs to rebound after having a disappointing season last year with just three sacks.

The most experienced end behind Babin, Mincey and Branch is Austen Lane, who has 16 starts in his career, five last year.

With their needs in the defensive line, it won't be a surprise if the Jaguars take a defensive lineman with their first pick.



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Old 04-01-2013, 01:23 PM   #7
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:31 PM   #8
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Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
I was thinking the same thing this morning when
it was confirmed that the Raiders took Flynn.
It's very obvious that the people "in the know"
see something that most here on CP refuse to see.
As much as the Chiefs need a QB, let's face the facts:
Geno Smith is not worthy of a 1.1 pick. If he was,
all this activity would not be taking place this close
to the draft.
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:31 PM   #9
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When the season first ended lots of people were talking about Smith, Barkley, Glennon and Wilson all going in the top 10 and Nassib and others at the end of the first. Now it looks like 1 QB in the first round.
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:31 PM   #10
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And all of those teams will be dumb as hell not to take a chance on a QB in the draft, as the players they've acquired are not the answer. Doesn't have to be Smith, and the selection doesn't *have* to be in the first, but the position must be addressed.
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And all of those teams will be dumb as hell not to take a chance on a QB in the draft, as the players they've acquired are not the answer. Doesn't have to be Smith, and the selection doesn't *have* to be in the first, but the position must be addressed.
It's always good to see a chance. If we don't draft a QB in the first 4 rounds then that's a bad sign for this regime.

But drafting 1.1? they must have noticed some major turn off.

Imagine you want to bang Scarlet Johansson, but it turns out she has a dick, would you still bang?

I am wondering, has it happened before that QB needy teams scrambled for backups and signed them as potential starters before a draft like that?

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And all of those teams will be dumb as hell not to take a chance on a QB in the draft, as the players they've acquired are not the answer. Doesn't have to be Smith, and the selection doesn't *have* to be in the first, but the position must be addressed.
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It's always good to see a chance. I'd agree, but they must have noticed some major turn off.

Imagine you want to bang Scarlet Johansson, but it turns out she has a dick, would you still bang?

I am wondering, has it happened before that QB needy teams scrambled for backups and signed them as potential starters before a draft like that?
How big is the dick? Can I still see it?
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:35 PM   #14
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And between those 10 teams, only 3 have won Super Bowls and 2 of those were 40+ years ago. Lots of brilliant teams on that list. Clearly they are the teams that make the right decisions all the time.
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:36 PM   #15
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I don't understand the point of the OP. That there are so many QB needy teams and only 1 guy to target that they are settling for stop gaps this year?
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