Football Did Football Kill Junior?

**petegz28** · 08:56 PM

S I am listening to 610 on the way home and Nick Wright is talking all this shit about how playing football professionally kills the players.

Yes, we know the physical pounding takes some years off a player's life. But he was talking about the depression and such that players may experience after they retire and what not.

I have to call total BS on this.

Edit: I am not saying football didn't cause the depression. I am saying the way Nick Wright was trying to downplay other causes of depression vs. playing in the NFL was bunk.

**Fire Me Boy!** · 05-02-2012, 03:45 PM

No. I'd have to guess trauma and/or blood loss did it. Or a bullet.

Garcia Bronco · 05-02-2012, 03:45 PM

No it won't, IMO. It might change the game, but I think these changes were going to happen regardless. Much the way that the players started wearing helmets.

|Zach| · 05-02-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

S I am listening to 610 on the way home and Nick Wright is talking all this shit about how playing football professionally kills the players.

Yes, we know the physical pounding takes some years off a player's life. But he was talking about the depression and such that players may experience after they retire and what not.

I have to call total BS on this.

Eh, Not calling it the cause or anything but not sure how you call total BS on it either.

The proof is in the pudding.

Stewie · 05-02-2012, 03:52 PM

The general population shows all deaths by suicide is about 1.53%. The NFL is much lower than that statistic.

rico · 05-02-2012, 03:53 PM

God, you guys.... Junior is alive and well!

It's John Ritter who died. And it was a heart defect of some sort that got him.

Imon Yourside · 05-02-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zoccer|

Eh, Not calling it the cause or anything but not sure how you call total BS on it either.

The proof is in the pudding.

I've looked through several piles of pudding and i've found proof of nothing but well...pudding and it's origins.

|Zach| · 05-02-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

I've looked through several piles of pudding and i've found proof of nothing but well...pudding and it's origins.

Yea, I have seen the places you get your information from.

listopencil · 05-02-2012, 03:54 PM

It doesn't look good. We know that there is a lot of head trauma going on. We know that the medical professionals in the NFL are not always making decisions based on the long term health of the players, and I think it's reasonable to believe that this culture comes down from the teams and the players themselves.

Imon Yourside · 05-02-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zoccer|

Yea, I have seen the places you get your information from.

Look bundle of sticks i don't buy that off brand pudding, this is the real deal!

listopencil · 05-02-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

The general population shows all deaths by suicide is about 1.53%. The NFL is much lower than that statistic.

That's a start. But it's more complicated than that.

Stewie · 05-02-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

That's a start. But it's more complicated than that.

I'm sure the complexity is within a troubled soul that put a bullet in his heart. All the incredible work he did on and off the field doesn't add up to this ending. It was a facade of a completely self-centered Junior and it no longer worked. Bullet.

aturnis · 05-02-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

S I am listening to 610 on the way home and Nick Wright is talking all this shit about how playing football professionally kills the players.

Yes, we know the physical pounding takes some years off a player's life. But he was talking about the depression and such that players may experience after they retire and what not.

I have to call total BS on this.

You're an idiot. I can't imagine this is being discussed in the Junior Seau is dead thread.

**petegz28** · 05-02-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zoccer|

Eh, Not calling it the cause or anything but not sure how you call total BS on it either.

The proof is in the pudding.

What I am calling BS on is how he was implying that somehow Football aside from the armed services which he mentioned, causes this tragic behavior and playing pro football "kills the players".

Trauma and depression? Talk to someone who has a family and lost his job. Talk to a Police Office or Fire Fighter. Talk to someone who works in a hostile environment that has them stressed out to the max all the time.

There are occupational hazards to anything peolpe do. True football is very physical but other things such as stress take a physical and mental toll on people as well.

Wright was calling it "the cause". I can think of a lot worse situations than someone being depressed because they don't play pro sports anymore.

**petegz28** · 05-02-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

I'm sure the complexity is within a troubled soul that put a bullet in his heart. All the incredible work he did on and off the field doesn't add up to this ending. It was a facade of a completely self-centered Junior and it no longer worked. Bullet.

I would tend to agree with this. He had issues other than football-casued or related. As harsh a it sounds and I am not trying to belittle anything, to an extent anyway, but when someone takes their own life you have to say there was a degree of selfishness involved, barring any medical conditions, of course.

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