***Geno Smith Watch 2014***

[Hammock Parties]

Choco Penii starts his second glorious season tonight with the New York Jets in less than an hour.

Praise him with great praise!

[John Dope]

Is the Geno line drawn with an age gap? It really seems like it to me. The young guys love Geno and the older crowd thinks he sucks. Maybe it's just my perception?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by John Dope

Is the Geno line drawn with an age gap? It really seems like it to me. The young guys love Geno and the older crowd thinks he sucks. Maybe it's just my perception?

Homer posters here hate Geno, objective posters here don't love Geno, but are open to the fact he could be a good QB in the NFL someday.

[John Dope]

Why do people here care so much about Geno? He's a Jet.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Homer posters here hate Geno, objective posters here don't love Geno, but are open to the fact he could be a good QB in the NFL someday.

That's not how it breaks down. "Objective" posters zeroed in on Geno months before the draft, and decided it was Geno or bust with the first overall pick. "objective" posters aren't just open to the idea he might be good, they are openly rooting for him to be better than Alex Smith.

Honestly, a better argument would be E.J. Manuel, who I think is, and will be better than Geno. As one of the "homers" I didn't want Geno, because of what I saw, emotionally, and against better competition. Never would have taken him first overall.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Messier

That's not how it breaks down. "Objective" posters zeroed in on Geno months before the draft, and decided it was Geno or bust with the first overall pick. "objective" posters aren't just open to the idea he might be good, they are openly rooting for him to be better than Alex Smith.

Honestly, a better argument would be E.J. Manuel, who I think is, and will be better than Geno. As one of the "homers" I didn't want Geno, because of what I saw, emotionally, and against better competition. Never would have taken him first overall.

That's complete BS.

It's pretty obvious to anyone that has been here awhile that the people that don't like Geno always tend to fall in line and like moves that the Chiefs make while others tend to be more critical of the team in other aspects/moves made. It's not just the Geno issue. The people that are open to Geno possibly not being a bust after year 1 and those that wrote him off after 3-4 games are on the opposing sides of 90% of the issues here. It goes beyond just Geno IMO. Its a mindset.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Mike Vick is ****ing horrible.

This.

Michael Vick has had how many years to learn to play QB?
And he hasn't evolved a bit from the strong armed runner that entered the league 10-12 years ago.

Originally Posted by John Dope

Is the Geno line drawn with an age gap? It really seems like it to me. The young guys love Geno and the older crowd thinks he sucks. Maybe it's just my perception?

I believe that Geno Smith has the potential to be an outstanding QB in the right system, with good coaching.
I am not sure that he is in that situation in New York.

I think Andy Reid and this offense would have been the ideal situation for him.

So, since I'm one of the older posters here, the answer to your question is no.

At the end of the day, though, since he isn't Chief, I don't really give a rat's ass whether he succeeds or not.

I only clicked on this thread because I'm bored and have read every other thread, including the Tony Stewart thread and the NFL legitimate or not thread, two topics that I have virtually no interest in.

You ****ers need to step up and start entertaining me.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

That's complete BS.

It's pretty obvious to anyone that has been here awhile that the people that don't like Geno always tend to fall in line and like moves that the Chiefs make while others tend to be more critical of the team in other aspects/moves made. It's not just the Geno issue. The people that are open to Geno possibly not being a bust after year 1 and those that wrote him off after 3-4 games are on the opposing sides of 90% of the issues here. It goes beyond just Geno IMO. Its a mindset.

Actually I think a lot of the same dumb asses on here that are teh ghey for Geno and want to look off his bad stats, are the same dumb asses who critique A Smith and claim he can't be a good qb and look off his good stats! That's the line for me. I'm not a huge A Smith fan, but feel he's better than the qbs on a lot of the other teams in the league.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

That's complete BS.

It's pretty obvious to anyone that has been here awhile that the people that don't like Geno always tend to fall in line and like moves that the Chiefs make while others tend to be more critical of the team in other aspects/moves made. It's not just the Geno issue. The people that are open to Geno possibly not being a bust after year 1 and those that wrote him off after 3-4 games are on the opposing sides of 90% of the issues here. It goes beyond just Geno IMO. Its a mindset.

No. It's that Geno was simply never the QB that the 'smarts' around here insisted he was.

32 NFL teams agreed. He fell into the 2nd round. He struggled as a rookie. The more stuff like this happened, the more entrenched the pro-geno crowd became.

I don't have a problem with the guy and wish him all the best, but Geno Smith is more popular on this forum than any NFL forum on the internet. It's almost like the result of a bizarre social experiment.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Actually I think a lot of the same dumb asses on here that are teh ghey for Geno and want to look off his bad stats, are the same dumb asses who critique A Smith and claim he can't be a good qb and look off his good stats! That's the line for me. I'm not a huge A Smith fan, but feel he's better than the qbs on a lot of the other teams in the league.

Your post goes a bit into why I gave up any serious dialogue on the issue. I was busting a ton of guys commenting on Geno that probably didn't watch 4 quarters of Jets football all season long. ChiefO's, Marcellus, and Messier I remember that I busted talking out their asses on games that hadn't even seen.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

That's complete BS.

It's pretty obvious to anyone that has been here awhile that the people that don't like Geno always tend to fall in line and like moves that the Chiefs make while others tend to be more critical of the team in other aspects/moves made. It's not just the Geno issue. The people that are open to Geno possibly not being a bust after year 1 and those that wrote him off after 3-4 games are on the opposing sides of 90% of the issues here. It goes beyond just Geno IMO. Its a mindset.

Come on. The reason Geno is still a topic isn't because of hater homers hoping he fails. It's still a topic because of the "objective" Chiefs fans rooting for him. Like I said, EJ has a better shot than Geno to become a good QB, yet there aren't any people following his career. There was, and is a Geno army (a few threatened to leave CP forever if the CHiefs didn't draft him) that want him to do well. The anti Geno stuff is a direct reaction to some people that seem to want Geno be better than Alex Smith.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Homer posters here hate Geno, objective posters here don't love Geno, but are open to the fact he could be a good QB in the NFL someday.

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

No. It's that Geno was simply never the QB that the 'smarts' around here insisted he was.

32 NFL teams agreed. He fell into the 2nd round. He struggled as a rookie. The more stuff like this happened, the more entrenched the pro-geno crowd became.

I don't have a problem with the guy and wish him all the best, but Geno Smith is more popular on this forum than any NFL forum on the internet. It's almost like the result of a bizarre social experiment.

Exhibit A.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Messier

Come on. The reason Geno is still a topic isn't because of hater homers hoping he fails. It's still a topic because of the "objective" Chiefs fans rooting for him. Like I said, EJ has a better shot than Geno to become a good QB, yet there aren't any people following his career. There was, and is a Geno army (a few threatened to leave CP forever if the CHiefs didn't draft him) that want him to do well. The anti Geno stuff is a direct reaction to some people that seem to want Geno be better than Alex Smith.

Geno is a topic here the same reason Will Myers and Jake Odorizzi are still topics regarding the Royals. Some people just like to follow things like this and see if the organization made the right move in the long run. Some people are also football fans and some people are just Chief fans that don't care about other players in the league like a few have mentioned. "He's a jet why do I care?" Hell you said you never watched a Jets game and don't care for Geno but always have near the most in any Geno related threads

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by John Dope

Is the Geno line drawn with an age gap? It really seems like it to me. The young guys love Geno and the older crowd thinks he sucks. Maybe it's just my perception?

It's not an age line, it's a philosophy line. On one side you have people who have no problems with the team recycling backup quarterbacks for thirty years because they believe the draft is too much of a longshot, and they'd rather have the known quantity with a lower ceiling than gamble and risk a bust. On the other you have people who believe that the last thirty years have proven that trying to win with recycled quarterbacks is a too much of a longshot, and they would like the team to try the draft, fully knowing that it's a gamble. And those philosophies expand into other areas, like whether or not they're okay with drafting 'safe' picks like offensive linemen. You can probably classify it as conservative versus progressive team-building philosophy, although I think that's a little too narrow.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

It's not an age line, it's a philosophy line. On one side you have people who have no problems with the team recycling backup quarterbacks for thirty years because they believe the draft is too much of a longshot, and they'd rather have the known quantity with a lower ceiling than gamble and risk a bust. On the other you have people who believe that the last thirty years have proven that trying to win with recycled quarterbacks is a too much of a longshot, and they would like the team to try the draft, fully knowing that it's a gamble. And those philosophies expand into other areas, like whether or not they're okay with drafting 'safe' picks like offensive linemen. You can probably classify it as conservative versus progressive team-building philosophy, although I think that's a little too narrow.

RIght. It's like DC. People are just wired a certain way.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Messier

Come on. The reason Geno is still a topic isn't because of hater homers hoping he fails. It's still a topic because of the "objective" Chiefs fans rooting for him. Like I said, EJ has a better shot than Geno to become a good QB, yet there aren't any people following his career. There was, and is a Geno army (a few threatened to leave CP forever if the CHiefs didn't draft him) that want him to do well. The anti Geno stuff is a direct reaction to some people that seem to want Geno be better than Alex Smith.

No, both sides keep the topic alive and thriving.