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Old 04-01-2013, 11:20 AM  
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Colorado to seek Death Penalty against Movie Theater Shooter James Holmes

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Old 08-08-2015, 12:51 PM   #46
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Some notes on death row, via Wikipedia.

A conservatively estimated 4.1 percent are wrongly convicted.

42.77 percent are white.

41.68 percent are black.

51.7 percent have a high school diploma or GED compared with 84.1 percent of the genpop.

98.2 percent male, 1.2 percent female.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...th_row_inmates
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Old 08-08-2015, 01:20 PM   #47
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Some notes on death row, via Wikipedia.

A conservatively estimated 4.1 percent are wrongly convicted.

42.77 percent are white.

41.68 percent are black.

51.7 percent have a high school diploma or GED compared with 84.1 percent of the genpop.

98.2 percent male, 1.2 percent female.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...th_row_inmates
That sucks and all, but those numbers aren't applicable to this James Holmes ****.

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Old 08-08-2015, 01:54 PM   #48
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That sucks and all, but those numbers aren't applicable to this James Holmes ****.

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Meh, you're right. I just have an issue with executing someone who is so obviously mentally ill. Just my opinion.
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Old 08-08-2015, 02:10 PM   #49
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Meh, you're right. I just have an issue with executing someone who is so obviously mentally ill. Just my opinion.
Honestly, you could make an argument that any person that would murder another human so carelessly is suffering from some type of mental illness. I just don't view that type of person as some poor victim trapped within their own body, unable to do the right thing. Actions have consequences. You kill a bunch of innocents for no apparent reason, you deserve to die.
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:48 PM   #50
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The fact that this piece of shit still draws breath pisses me off to no end.
**** that juror with a 2x4.
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Old 08-08-2015, 08:28 PM   #51
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Old 08-08-2015, 11:55 PM   #52
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Was he mentally ill when he booby trapped his apartment for when the police came by? Was he mentally ill in the months that it took to plan and carry the crime out? I call bullshit on the mentally ill argument in most cases especially since he would've plead guilty had they not sought the death penalty. It's a joke, they make it nearly impossible to get the death penalty and everyone knows that mental illness is more times an excuse than the real reason for him doing what he did. I'd rather tax dollars go to killing him than keeping him alive for another possible half century or longer. Why is it so hard to take the life of a person that ruined so many, especially since he's so "unaware" of his actions and overall decision making? I don't hate the jurors since it would've taken a unanimous vote for lethal injection, but this one seemed pretty obvious to me.
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Old 08-09-2015, 02:47 AM   #53
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You might change your mind about that if you watch the video about Richard Speck.

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I saw the video several years ago on television, and it is disgusting how happy that mother****er was in prison. I know there are problems with the death penalty, but it's a total miscarriage of justice to let guys like this suck off the government teat (and each other, apparently) for decades.

This is why I support the death penalty.
Well, that's disturbing. Here's to hoping some shit has changed since then.
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Old 08-09-2015, 08:37 AM   #54
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The fact that this piece of shit still draws breath pisses me off to no end.
**** that juror with a 2x4.
I have no problem with the juror. Put in that situation, I start with the positions that (A) he's not guilty (in this case, by reason of insanity) and (B) he deserves no punishment at all. It's up to others to move me ever farther from those positions. Your anger might better be directed toward the law that gave that juror the power to thwart the end you thought was just.
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Old 08-09-2015, 08:55 AM   #55
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:55 PM   #56
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I have no problem with the juror. Put in that situation, I start with the positions that (A) he's not guilty (in this case, by reason of insanity) and (B) he deserves no punishment at all. It's up to others to move me ever farther from those positions. Your anger might better be directed toward the law that gave that juror the power to thwart the end you thought was just.
What a load of horseshit. This was the penalty phase of the trial. His guilt had already been established. This jury's job wasn't to figure out his innocence or guilt, nor was it to determine whether or not he should be punished.
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Old 08-09-2015, 02:23 PM   #57
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What a load of horseshit. This was the penalty phase of the trial. His guilt had already been established. This jury's job wasn't to figure out his innocence or guilt, nor was it to determine whether or not he should be punished.
No wonder they call you Brainiac, eh? Thanks for clearing that up. Penalty comes after establishment of guilt? Who the **** knew?

As I said, as the process begins, my position as a juror is that Holmes is entirely not guilty (by reason of insanity) and due no punishment at all.

At the penalty phase, which comes after I've been persuaded that he's guilty, my default has been shifted. I now believe he's guilty, but he's due the least punishment allowed under the law. Now the prosecution has to continue to persuade me to shift toward a harsher punishment.

In this case, Mr. Brainiac, I'd have to say that the juror didn't fail you. Maybe the prosecution failed you by not persuading that juror or the law failed you by allowing that juror to derail the revenge killing you seem to want, but the juror did just fine.
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Old 08-09-2015, 09:25 PM   #58
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No wonder they call you Brainiac, eh? Thanks for clearing that up. Penalty comes after establishment of guilt? Who the **** knew?

As I said, as the process begins, my position as a juror is that Holmes is entirely not guilty (by reason of insanity) and due no punishment at all.

At the penalty phase, which comes after I've been persuaded that he's guilty, my default has been shifted. I now believe he's guilty, but he's due the least punishment allowed under the law. Now the prosecution has to continue to persuade me to shift toward a harsher punishment.

In this case, Mr. Brainiac, I'd have to say that the juror didn't fail you. Maybe the prosecution failed you by not persuading that juror or the law failed you by allowing that juror to derail the revenge killing you seem to want, but the juror did just fine.
Just admit that you're opposed to the death penalty under any circumstances and spare us all of your boring rhetoric.
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Just admit that you're opposed to the death penalty under any circumstances and spare us all of your boring rhetoric.
I am opposed to the death penalty under any circumstances because the state should not have the power to kill its own citizens.
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Was he mentally ill when he booby trapped his apartment for when the police came by? Was he mentally ill in the months that it took to plan and carry the crime out? I call bullshit on the mentally ill argument in most cases especially since he would've plead guilty had they not sought the death penalty. It's a joke, they make it nearly impossible to get the death penalty and everyone knows that mental illness is more times an excuse than the real reason for him doing what he did. I'd rather tax dollars go to killing him than keeping him alive for another possible half century or longer. Why is it so hard to take the life of a person that ruined so many, especially since he's so "unaware" of his actions and overall decision making? I don't hate the jurors since it would've taken a unanimous vote for lethal injection, but this one seemed pretty obvious to me.
Those don't seem like the actions of a mentally ill person to you?
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