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Old 09-20-2018, 12:39 PM  
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Chris Simms roasts Matt Nagy



If you watch through that, he starts by saying that the announcers put out shit the coaches tell them, ok I knew that. They talk about all the negative shit that's out there about Trubisky and the graphic that was up during the MNF game where it shows Trubisky 7 TDs 7 INTs second year etc..

Under it says from Matt Nagy "I have to pull back what I am as a playcaller"

To which Chris Simms says "what a cheapshot chickenshit move"

Suffice to say that isn't going over very well for Nagy eh.
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Old 09-20-2018, 10:10 PM   #46
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Maybe Nagy isn't the offensive genious (CP spelling) that people were lead to believe he was. He should have known what he was getting at QB if he was such a great offensive guru. He also didn't learn much from Reid if he's "throwing his QB under the bus". Andy takes the blame not passes if off.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:09 PM   #47
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Maybe Nagy isn't the offensive genious (CP spelling) that people were lead to believe he was. He should have known what he was getting at QB if he was such a great offensive guru. He also didn't learn much from Reid if he's "throwing his QB under the bus". Andy takes the blame not passes if off.
Right.

Precursor here: Iím not convinced his comment is that big of a deal.

That being said, there is no way you take that Chicago job if you havenít scouted the **** out of Mitch. Either that or you have the hard talk that he might not be the guy and the organization might have to eat shit on the pick. I have a hard time believing you get hired if thatís the case.

Nagy should get no passes for Mitch being dog shit for tools because there is no way he doesnít know that going in. Unless of course he shitcans him in short order.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:20 PM   #48
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Scalding hot take: Nagy was the product of our insane offensive skill players. He'll struggle with league average players.
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:31 PM   #49
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What is the value of him saying it publicly other than helping his own image?
Honestly I don't think there's anything here.

Was there some expectation that a 2nd year QB would master the playbook in a few months? Nagy's playcalling looks fine. Trublindsky looks like garbage.

Nagy is probably sandbagging for himself but it's a far cry from throwing his QB under the bus. It's something kinda obvious one would assume to be true.
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Old 09-21-2018, 12:40 AM   #50
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He canít be mad. Could have stayed in KC and took over for Andy when he retires. Nobody forced him to take the Bears job.
Nah, he needs some head coaching experience first if he is going to audition to be in charge of the best offense in the NFL.

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Old 09-21-2018, 12:45 AM   #51
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Scalding hot take: Nagy was the product of our insane offensive skill players. He'll struggle with league average players.
This could very well be the case, Mr. suzzer99.

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Old 09-21-2018, 01:10 AM   #52
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Nagy did what any coach would do....Bieniemy will bolt too if someone offers him a HC gig with a #1 pick QB.

Nagy isn't on the hook for Trubisky...he didn't draft him.
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Old 09-21-2018, 04:05 AM   #53
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cause none of the coaches liked simms? i like his takes, but there is a reason he wasn't all that successful
He had a segment recently where he was discussing his career and he said who knows why things happen they way they do. He said everyone knows about my spleen injury but before I threw 3 picks in the BIG 12 championship game I was told I was a top 10 pick, after that no one wanted to talk to me anymore.
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Old 09-21-2018, 05:07 AM   #54
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LOL ... ya think?

Honestly, I'd rather hear that perspective than the usual Teicheresque or Schefteresque parroting we hear everywhere else.

To me, it's refreshing to hear somebody speak their personal truth to coaching power. Because I, for one, am tired of being manipulated by the NFL Deep State.

BTW, have you ever seen that NFL Films thing where Gruden and Simms are practicing with the team (Bucs, maybe?) and Gruden is flat bitching down on Simms during practice? If I could find it and figure out a way to post it, I would ... it's both interesting and very amusing. Makes you feel sorry for Simms, though.

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Old 09-21-2018, 10:10 AM   #55
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He had a segment recently where he was discussing his career and he said who knows why things happen they way they do. He said everyone knows about my spleen injury but before I threw 3 picks in the BIG 12 championship game I was told I was a top 10 pick, after that no one wanted to talk to me anymore.
Yeah, and those teams were so wrong for passing him up as a top 10 pick huh?

Does anyone remember watching Simms? Because I do and at no point did he look like an NFL QB. From what I saw I wouldn't have been comfortable with him as the top back up.
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:12 AM   #56
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In reality he went to a bad spot. Gruden was going through QB's like a meat grinder.
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:22 AM   #57
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In reality he went to a bad spot. Gruden was going through QB's like a meat grinder.
In that time, he was calling super long developing plays. That play he got dead on seemed to take an hour and he was still holding the ball when he got deaded.
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:23 AM   #58
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In reality he went to a bad spot. Gruden was going through QB's like a meat grinder.
Brodie Croyle went to a bad spot too.

Doesn't change that I don't think either guy was going to hack it anyway.

Doesn't mean anything about him as a personality or analyst FWIW (I like him in those capacities), but I never saw anything in the guy that made me think "Wow, if only he was in another situation he could have been great." Might as well be Brian Griese. Jeesh, now that I think about it, that might be a bit flattering.
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Mayfield’s performance last night is doing no favors for Trubisky.
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That entire show is worth watching. He also annihilated Gruden. Said Carr just went 29-32 and only scored 19 pts. Blamed it on Gruden's outdated offense it only reads 1 side of the field and doesn't generate explosive plays.

Said Case Keenum is as good as Derek Carr. He does turn it over but stays aggressive and generates tons of big plays.
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