Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs Mitch Morse Out for Season. CB Keith Reaser moved to 53 Man Roster
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Reply
Page 3 of 5 12 3 45
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-15-2017, 12:14 PM  
T-post Tom T-post Tom is offline
Threepeat!
 
T-post Tom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland
Casino cash: $4617293
Mitch Morse Out for Season. CB Keith Reaser moved to 53 Man Roster
On IR with foot injury.
Posts: 20,191
T-post Tom is obviously part of the inner Circle.T-post Tom is obviously part of the inner Circle.T-post Tom is obviously part of the inner Circle.T-post Tom is obviously part of the inner Circle.T-post Tom is obviously part of the inner Circle.T-post Tom is obviously part of the inner Circle.T-post Tom is obviously part of the inner Circle.T-post Tom is obviously part of the inner Circle.T-post Tom is obviously part of the inner Circle.T-post Tom is obviously part of the inner Circle.T-post Tom is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2017, 03:00 PM   #31
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
With them going to look to transition away from a lot of the older guys next year and start a first timer at qb, I wonder if they’ll look to clear a lot of money off the books.

Fords 8 mil could be rolled into the next season.
But then who's the starting OLB and where's the depth?

Their pass rush has been nonexistent for the most part since Ford's injury.

Dumping a potential 10 sack a year guy isn't the way to build a championship team.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2017, 03:01 PM   #32
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 View Post
Not discounting that the Chiefs have had it worse than those teams, they have... but the whole Spencer Ware thing is kinda meaningless.
wut

So Kareem Hunt goes 2+ months without a rushing TD and Spencer Ware's absence is meaningless?

During their losing streak, West was injured so they had to use CJ Spiller and Akeem Hunt, both of whom were ineffective.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2017, 03:02 PM   #33
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $2864064
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
But then who's the starting OLB and where's the depth?

Their pass rush has been nonexistent for the most part since Ford's injury.

Dumping a potential 10 sack a year guy isn't the way to build a championship team.
It’s not, but are they planning on being a championship caliber team next year?

If they aren’t planning to keep him, it’s debatable on pulling the tag and going with a young guy or new draft pick or a free agent. Especially with fords injury history “.

I’d probably keep him and run out the year with him, they let him walk.
Posts: 81,149
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2017, 03:04 PM   #34
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $2864064
Ware would have been nice to have had.
Posts: 81,149
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2017, 03:15 PM   #35
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
It’s not, but are they planning on being a championship caliber team next year?
The offense certainly has enough weapons but the defense definitely needs more pass rushers and defensive lineman.

Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
If they aren’t planning to keep him, it’s debatable on pulling the tag and going with a young guy or new draft pick or a free agent. Especially with fords injury history “.
The Free Agent pool is extremely shallow for pass rushers in 2018, so I doubt there's any help there. It's possible they hit on a guy in the draft but without a 1st rounder, those odds decrease dramatically. Plus, as we've seen over the years, the defense, just like the offense, isn't automatically "Plug and Play".

You can never have too many pass rushers, so I wouldn't give up on Ford until his body says it's done.

Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
I’d probably keep him and run out the year with him, they let him walk.
If he returns to form next year but they're still concerned with his injury history, the Chiefs would likely garner a 3rd round Comp pick in 2019, which would definitely be helpful.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2017, 03:19 PM   #36
Pitt Gorilla Pitt Gorilla is offline
Banned!
 
Pitt Gorilla's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201
Casino cash: $3050194
On a somewhat related note, Conner McGovern is playing really well in Denver.
__________________

Your son is a bench warmer because of your weak genetics not because of the coach

Norlin Mommsen is disgusting.
Posts: 45,980
Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2017, 03:21 PM   #37
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $2864064
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
The offense certainly has enough weapons but the defense definitely needs more pass rushers and defensive lineman.



The Free Agent pool is extremely shallow for pass rushers in 2018, so I doubt there's any help there. It's possible they hit on a guy in the draft but without a 1st rounder, those odds decrease dramatically. Plus, as we've seen over the years, the defense, just like the offense, isn't automatically "Plug and Play".

You can never have too many pass rushers, so I wouldn't give up on Ford until his body says it's done.



If he returns to form next year but they're still concerned with his injury history, the Chiefs would likely garner a 3rd round Comp pick in 2019, which would definitely be helpful.
For sure the offense looks good to go, but you’re also starting a first time qb who hasn’t taken a regular season snap at qb. I’m not gonna set the expectations that high.

The defense needs some additions for sure but it’s a little tough to gauge. When they’ve played with some attitude this year they’ve been better.

But it’s probably gonna be a transition year next year
Posts: 81,149
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2017, 03:27 PM   #38
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
But it’s probably gonna be a transition year next year
If 2018 is a transition year, that means that 2019 or 2020 is when their "Window" would open, a mere 7-8 years after Reid was hired as the head coach.

What an epic disaster.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2017, 03:29 PM   #39
RunKC RunKC is offline
Andy Reid Supporter
 
RunKC's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $2369611
Dane is right. Unless Ford’s back is ****ed, you have to keep him. We need as many known pass rushers as possible and Ford’s salary isn’t hurting our cap after the dump of the older vets.

We need to draft another DE as similar to Chris Jones physically as possible to go with Chris Jones and Allen Bailey up front.

Build a strong pass rush unit and rotate them.
__________________
Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny
I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs.


Adopt a Chief: Noah Gray
Posts: 45,801
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2017, 03:42 PM   #40
Easy 6 Easy 6 is offline
pie is never free
 
Easy 6's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: the drivers seat
Casino cash: $3847775
Is it possible to see how Kpass looks in camp, and if he is killing it then release Ford?

I'm way down on Ford, but if releasing him leaves behind a big financial problem and Kpass is still looking iffy... then yeah, it would probably be a mistake to part ways with Dee
Posts: 91,559
Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2017, 03:52 PM   #41
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $2864064
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
If 2018 is a transition year, that means that 2019 or 2020 is when their "Window" would open, a mere 7-8 years after Reid was hired as the head coach.

What an epic disaster.
They're just finishing up a window. 15,16 were a window that for multiple reasons, didn't work out. Even this year, for whatever reasons, aren't working out.

Once they traded up for Mahomes, it was obvious they were preparing for the 2nd window.

With hindsight I think there are a few reasons to point out why it didn't work out.
Posts: 81,149
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2017, 04:28 PM   #42
pugsnotdrugs19 pugsnotdrugs19 is offline
SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS
 
pugsnotdrugs19's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2013
Casino cash: $9169447
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
They're just finishing up a window. 15,16 were a window that for multiple reasons, didn't work out. Even this year, for whatever reasons, aren't working out.

Once they traded up for Mahomes, it was obvious they were preparing for the 2nd window.

With hindsight I think there are a few reasons to point out why it didn't work out.
Yes and the 2nd window has potential to be much, much longer if Mahomes pans out..
Posts: 26,319
pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.pugsnotdrugs19 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2017, 04:31 PM   #43
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy 6 View Post
Is it possible to see how Kpass looks in camp, and if he is killing it then release Ford?

I'm way down on Ford, but if releasing him leaves behind a big financial problem and Kpass is still looking iffy... then yeah, it would probably be a mistake to part ways with Dee
There's no reason, from a cap perspective, to release Ford if he's completely healthy.

There are few options in Free Agency, at nearly every position, and with Smith, DJ and Hali all likely to be elsewhere, the Chiefs will free up approximately $33 million from those three players alone.

Also, at this point, I see no reason to extend Morse or Peters. Let them play through their 4th year before spending big bucks on them.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2017, 04:32 PM   #44
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $2864064
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
There's no reason, from a cap perspective, to release Ford if he's completely healthy.

There are few options in Free Agency, at nearly every position, and with Smith, DJ and Hali all likely to be elsewhere, the Chiefs will free up approximately $33 million from those three players alone.

Also, at this point, I see no reason to extend Morse or Peters. Let them play through their 4th year before spending big bucks on them.
Yep, with Morse injury issues and Peters "issues", unless you can get a huge money break on one of them, no reason to spend now.
Posts: 81,149
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2017, 04:34 PM   #45
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
They're just finishing up a window. 15,16 were a window that for multiple reasons, didn't work out. Even this year, for whatever reasons, aren't working out.
Which brings up another issue with Dorsey: Stop trading back and just trade up. Bring in talent that's immediately ready to contribute instead of just adding guys to add guys.

Like I already mentioned, three players from the 2016 draft, a 3rd, 5th and 6th, have already been released.

Hopefully, Veach drafts guys that are ready or at least near-ready to contribute. Enough of the 1-2-3 years before they get even close to contributing.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 3 of 5 12 3 45

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:05 PM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.