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Old 02-17-2014, 06:19 PM  
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Country Club Plaza = Bannister Mall part 2?
KANSAS CITY, Mo. - More than 100 teens converged on the Country Club Plaza Saturday night and created a ruckus for patrons and a lot of work for Kansas City police officers.

Read more: http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/local_n...#ixzz2tczs9I7u

Stories like those about the plaza have been rolling in for the last year or longer. At one point there was a shooting and they have put a curfew in place


I remember years ago bannister mall area was thriving. Hypermart and all the other surrounding stores were very popular and always busy. Crime slowly strangled the area and people chose to go elsewhere. The whole place turned into a ghost town. Obviously Cerner is building there now but the question I pose is simple

There are a lot of options other than the plaza around KC so...

Will the Plaza die the same way the Bannister area did?
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:33 AM   #76
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:35 AM   #77
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I don't have a problem with the kids. Kids will do what you let them do. The city simply needs to put a curfew on anyone under 18 that is not accompanied by their parent or guardian. If not, your ass needs to be out of there by 8PM or you will be arrested. Why is that so hard?
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:36 AM   #78
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If they are "gangbanger kids" why do they need a ride from their parents?
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:41 AM   #79
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Parents shouldn't let their kids just roam around if they don't have business down there. Here's how that conversation would have gone in my household:

"Dad, can you take me down to the plaza and drop me off?"

"What are you going down there for? You don't have enough money to eat anywhere down there, and you aren't shopping at any stores. No."

And even if I would have had a friend who drove, he still wouldn't want me going down there if I didn't have business down there. Parents need to be parents. I don't care about the color of your skin. Parents are failing.

I work in the area quite a bit. There are some nice areas surrounding the plaza. some real shitty ones aren't that far away, but I don't think the yuppies in the area will allow the plaza to become a victim of "Roving Teen Mobs."
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:42 AM   #80
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I don't have a problem with the kids. Kids will do what you let them do. The city simply needs to put a curfew on anyone under 18 that is not accompanied by their parent or guardian. If not, your ass needs to be out of there by 8PM or you will be arrested. Why is that so hard?
KCPD doesn't have the resources to arrest hundreds of kids a day.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:46 AM   #81
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KCPD doesn't have the resources to arrest hundreds of kids a day.
10 or 20 a day should be good to start. Eventually attrition will take effect.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:46 AM   #82
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Parents shouldn't let their kids just roam around if they don't have business down there. Here's how that conversation would have gone in my household:

"Dad, can you take me down to the plaza and drop me off?"

"What are you going down there for? You don't have enough money to eat anywhere down there, and you aren't shopping at any stores. No."

And even if I would have had a friend who drove, he still wouldn't want me going down there if I didn't have business down there. Parents need to be parents. I don't care about the color of your skin. Parents are failing.

I work in the area quite a bit. There are some nice areas surrounding the plaza. some real shitty ones aren't that far away, but I don't think the yuppies in the area will allow the plaza to become a victim of "Roving Teen Mobs."
Movie theater.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:51 AM   #83
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10 or 20 a day should be good to start. Eventually attrition will take effect.
OK. I have no problem with that. Preferably well tazed.....
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:58 AM   #84
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Movie theater.
I'm not sure what this means. Do you mean there is a movie theater down there, and they might be down there to see a movie? Then what are they doing roaming the streets if they are there to see a movie? Again, my parents would have never gone for that. If they took me to see a movie, they were waiting for me when it got out. There was a pizza hut next to the theater here in town that I worked at in high school. On Friday and Saturday nights, we'd have a hoard of them in front of our doors and it blocked customer traffic. This issue isn't exclusive to the plaza. Also, I'd have no problem with them being down there if they were respectful to others. They are blocking traffic, starting fights, and even firing shots. They are being a menace.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:59 AM   #85
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I didn't even here of the plaza until I was out of high school. And when I did it was more of an adult type place that you go for dates and shopping. Not just some place to hang around and loiter.
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I used to enjoy Bannister Mall years ago, nice food court, good movie theater. Then it went to shit. Last time I went there I witnessed 3 fights and was stared down by punk kids, and I was with my wife and 2 daughters. I said never again and didn't go back.
I do not allow my 17 and 20 year old to go to the Plaza without me at night. During the day it's not so bad.
You forbid your 20 year old from going to the Plaza without you?
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I lived behind Bannister Mall down past blue ridge for 10 years. Hypermart was our grocery store. Clean, lots of check out lanes. Never felt threatened in the parking lots. Moved to Lees Summit in 2002. The neighborhood was still not bad at that time.

That's sweet. I had a cousin and his girlfriend who were put into their little shitty car at gun point, taken a few blocks away to a dead end street, robbed of less than $3 cash and change and then pistol whipped.

nice place.
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Parents shouldn't let their kids just roam around...
The problem is, a lot of people shirk their responsibility for parenting by being absent or by expecting schools and police to do it for them.
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