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Deberg_1990 · 03-06-2015, 07:35 PM

Agree or disagree?

MIDLAND, MI (WNEM) - It's a business that sells itself on being non-judgmental but Planet Fitness has allegedly revoked the membership of a woman for complaining.

Yvette Cormier, a member at the Midland location, says she had no idea what that meant until a few days ago.

"I was stunned and shocked. He looked like a man.. He did not look like a woman," Cormier said. Cormier is talking about a transgender woman who walked into the woman's locker room while she was getting undressed. She says she couldn't believe her eyes.

"This is very unprofessional. This is very scary," Cormier said.

Not knowing why the person was in the women's locker room, Cormier said she immediately complained to the front desk and eventually to corporate offices.

"They told me the same thing, that he was allowed in there because that's the sex he wants to be," Cormier said.

Cormier said she understands that some men self-identify as women and some women self-identify as men, but said the person looked like a man and that caught her off guard.

Cormier lost her membership for violating the company's no judgement zone policy.

Moving forward, Cormier said she isn't concerned with getting her membership back. Her concern now is to warn other women at this gym to make them aware of this policy, because she says Planet Fitness failed to warn her.

The company told TV5 that Cormier's concerns about the policy regarding gender identity was inappropriate and disruptive by complaining to other members at the gym.

Representatives with Planet Fitness issued this statement:

"Planet Fitness is committed to creating a non-intimidating, welcoming environment for our members. Our gender identity non-discrimination policy states that members and guests may use all gym facilities based on their sincere self-reported gender identity.

In expressing her concerns about the policy, the member in question exhibited behavior that club management deemed inappropriate and disruptive to other members, which is a violation of the membership agreement and as a result her membership was ccanceled"
Cormier said she had no idea that person was actually a transgender woman. She also said she had no idea Planet Fitness had a policy allowing transgender women to share locker rooms with women.

TV5 sat down with a well known member of the transgender community to get her take on how to avoid this issue moving forward.

Char Davenport is a professor at Saginaw Valley State University as well as Delta College. She's a prominent member of the transgender community. Davenport is also a transgender woman.

Davenport said she is not surprised by Cormier's reaction. At the same time she said she applauds Planet Fitness for understanding the needs of the transgender community.

According to Davenport, Planet Fitness and any other facility looking to support the transgender community, she insists they must have the proper facility so that supporting LGBT rights doesn't impose on those who may not have a full understanding of her community.

"Private showers and changing areas really would go a long way in resolving these issues," Davenport said.

Cormier said the issue is that Planet Fitness failed to warn her about the possibility they could be sharing a locker room with a member of the transgender community. Davenport feels pointing something like this out to customers could be construed as negative and again she said the proper facilities and changing areas make this issue a moot point.

In the end Davenport said she has no ill feeling towards Cormier, instead she said her concern is valid and most importantly, Davenport said it provides the opportunity for the public to learn more about the transgender community. Which hopefully will avoid a similar situation moving forward.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/28278233/...tity-complaint

BucEyedPea · 03-07-2015, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Follow my instagram. Austria had same sex showers for the high schoolers.

Europe has always been different on public nudity and for a long time. They think Americans are prudes. They just completely strip down at beach parties even. Men and women. I was appalled.

**MahiMike** · 03-07-2015, 10:49 AM

It's official. The weirdos have won. Just like the terrorists.

**lewdog** · 03-07-2015, 10:49 AM

Can't wait for this place to go out of business. What a joke to anything fitness related.

Tombstone RJ · 03-07-2015, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Europe has always been different on public nudity and for a long time. They think Americans are prudes. They just completely strip down at beach parties even. Men and women. I was appalled.

If I had to shower with girls (when I was that age) I could not do it. Why? Because I'd be a walking boner the whole time. Ever try to walk around with a huge boner... well, I'm just saying, it's awkward.

BucEyedPea · 03-07-2015, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

If I had to shower with girls (when I was that age) I could not do it. Why? Because I'd be a walking boner the whole time. Ever try to walk around with a huge boner... well, I'm just saying, it's awkward.

I don't even know what it's like to walk around with a flaccid boner either.

I did see it watching "Bad Grandpa" last night though, including dancing with one.

Just Passin' By · 03-07-2015, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Europe has always been different on public nudity and for a long time. They think Americans are prudes. They just completely strip down at beach parties even. Men and women. I was appalled.

Europe's open nudity has long been overhyped over here. It's not as relaxed and open as some try to imply it is.

BucEyedPea · 03-07-2015, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Europe's open nudity has long been overhyped over here. It's nowhere near as relaxed and open as some try to imply it is.

Well you coulda' fooled me because I saw it first-hand. I couldn't even find a beach in Greece where there was a single bathing suit on anyone.

Then I booked one of those beach parties on a Greek boat that took you to a tiny remote island. As soon as we hit shallow water the Euros: Brits, Germans, Italians and Scandinavians started stripping everything single thing off while jumping in. They remained like that the duration of the picnic—including men standing around a campfire roasting brats and sausages on sticks. With all the booze I sat at that campfire toasting something and between the brats and their standing naked bodies ...well...let's just say it got confusing.

Don Corlemahomes · 03-07-2015, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Well you coulda' fooled me because I saw it first-hand. I couldn't even find a beach in Greece where there was a single bathing suit on anyone.

Then I booked one of those beach parties on a Greek boat that took you to a tiny remote island. As soon as we hit shallow water the Euros: Brits, Germans, Italians and Scandinavians started stripping everything single thing off while jumping in. They remained like that the duration of the picnic—including men standing around a campfire roasting brats and sausages on sticks. With all the booze I sat at that campfire toasting something and between the brats and their standing naked bodies ...well...let's just say it got confusing.

So you're saying you got your fill of sausage

Just Passin' By · 03-07-2015, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Well you coulda' fooled me because I saw it first-hand. I couldn't even find a beach in Greece where there was a single bathing suit on anyone.

Then I booked one of those beach parties on a Greek boat that took you to a tiny remote island. As soon as we hit shallow water the Euros: Brits, Germans, Italians and Scandinavians started stripping everything single thing off while jumping in. They remained like that the duration of the picnic—including men standing around a campfire roasting brats and sausages on sticks. With all the booze I sat at that campfire toasting something and between the brats and their standing naked bodies ...well...let's just say it got confusing.

The open nudity varies from country to country, and even region to region.

Katipan · 03-07-2015, 11:06 AM

Did you bite the wrong weiner, BEP?

I mean, it happens to the best of us sometimes.

BucEyedPea · 03-07-2015, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan

Did you bite the wrong weiner, BEP?

I mean, it happens to the best of us sometimes.

I managed to eat my own but I struggled for a while in the blur of the night.

Here's another:

Another location: Going to a cafe just behind the beach—you'd think they'd put something on. Well it was cafeteria style but there was this pumpkin-shaped older man. I nearly squirted mustard on his weiner by accident, thinking it was mine. Then I would have had to rub it off.

Katipan · 03-07-2015, 11:12 AM

hahahaha

I can get ketchup to come out but I'm still working on the mustard.

**Canofbier** · 03-07-2015, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish

Ms. Delicate Sensibilities:

She looks EXACTLY like I pictured her while reading the story. Just another bored, over-primped housewife whose sole purpose in life is to complain loudly and make everyone else miserable. Anybody who has ever worked in a customer-facing service job knows the type.

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Originally Posted by jspchief

I don't really fault either side here. The business has a right to choose how they handle transgender people, and the lady has a right to feel uncomfortable about it. Personally, while I have a degree of compassion for transgendered, I think it's perfectly natural for someone to feel uncomfortable sharing a locker room with them. I don't know how a business could earnestly satisfy both sides on this issue.

This is the most reasonable view on the matter, I think. Planet Fitness has every right to define their policies in whatever manner represents their values and viewpoints best.

Still, I could see it being an uncomfortable experience for some, especially if they hadn't read the club's policies and weren't expecting it.

That being said, she's making herself look like an entitled moron by publicly complaining about a policy that she was perfectly capable of discovering for herself ahead of time.

BucEyedPea · 03-07-2015, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The open nudity varies from country to country, and even region to region.

Which is why I pointed out how that crowd of Europeans were from mixed regions of Europe. They are definitely freer than Americans, if you wanna call it that. If you prefer looser or more degraded—whatever. They are just different about such things.

I can also tell you, having been a temporary double-major (Art/Design & French) when studying French Civilization as a required course, that the French think we're more prudish. Men feel free to pee right out in an open city street. They just turn toward a wall but still out in the open street.

Even advertising over there, in Britain, France and Germany is more overt talking about other body parts and functions than we are. It's covered in advertising text books even. They mock us for it too.

**Baby Lee** · 03-07-2015, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan

Did you bite the wrong weiner, BEP?

I mean, it happens to the best of us sometimes.

Go for the one next to the can of shaving cream

03-06-2015, 07:35 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Planet Fitness drops woman after complaining about transgender woman in locker room Agree or disagree? MIDLAND, MI (WNEM) - It's a business that sells itself on being non-judgmental but Planet Fitness has allegedly revoked the membership of a woman for complaining. Yvette Cormier, a member at the Midland location, says she had no idea what that meant until a few days ago. "I was stunned and shocked. He looked like a man.. He did not look like a woman," Cormier said. Cormier is talking about a transgender woman who walked into the woman's locker room while she was getting undressed. She says she couldn't believe her eyes. "This is very unprofessional. This is very scary," Cormier said. Not knowing why the person was in the women's locker room, Cormier said she immediately complained to the front desk and eventually to corporate offices. "They told me the same thing, that he was allowed in there because that's the sex he wants to be," Cormier said. Cormier said she understands that some men self-identify as women and some women self-identify as men, but said the person looked like a man and that caught her off guard. Cormier lost her membership for violating the company's no judgement zone policy. Moving forward, Cormier said she isn't concerned with getting her membership back. Her concern now is to warn other women at this gym to make them aware of this policy, because she says Planet Fitness failed to warn her. The company told TV5 that Cormier's concerns about the policy regarding gender identity was inappropriate and disruptive by complaining to other members at the gym. Representatives with Planet Fitness issued this statement: "Planet Fitness is committed to creating a non-intimidating, welcoming environment for our members. Our gender identity non-discrimination policy states that members and guests may use all gym facilities based on their sincere self-reported gender identity. In expressing her concerns about the policy, the member in question exhibited behavior that club management deemed inappropriate and disruptive to other members, which is a violation of the membership agreement and as a result her membership was ccanceled" Cormier said she had no idea that person was actually a transgender woman. She also said she had no idea Planet Fitness had a policy allowing transgender women to share locker rooms with women. TV5 sat down with a well known member of the transgender community to get her take on how to avoid this issue moving forward. Char Davenport is a professor at Saginaw Valley State University as well as Delta College. She's a prominent member of the transgender community. Davenport is also a transgender woman. Davenport said she is not surprised by Cormier's reaction. At the same time she said she applauds Planet Fitness for understanding the needs of the transgender community. According to Davenport, Planet Fitness and any other facility looking to support the transgender community, she insists they must have the proper facility so that supporting LGBT rights doesn't impose on those who may not have a full understanding of her community. "Private showers and changing areas really would go a long way in resolving these issues," Davenport said. Cormier said the issue is that Planet Fitness failed to warn her about the possibility they could be sharing a locker room with a member of the transgender community. Davenport feels pointing something like this out to customers could be construed as negative and again she said the proper facilities and changing areas make this issue a moot point. In the end Davenport said she has no ill feeling towards Cormier, instead she said her concern is valid and most importantly, Davenport said it provides the opportunity for the public to learn more about the transgender community. Which hopefully will avoid a similar situation moving forward. http://www.kctv5.com/story/28278233/...tity-complaint
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