2016-2017 NFL Coach/GM changes and hires

[displacedinMN]

Feel free to post rumors, articles and anything else change related. I will try to update the OP as I can

Fired:
49'ers-Chip Kelly, GM Trent Baalke
Bills-Rex Ryan and his feet
Chargers-Mike McCoy
Jaguars-Gus Bradley
Rams-Jeff Fisher
Broncos-Gary Kubiak (self-inflicted)
Redskins-DC Berry and three others

On the bubble:
Colts-Chuck Pagano (now safe)
Texans-Bill O'Brian
Saints-Sean Peyton (rumored now safe-fired a lot of assistant coaches)
Anyone in the Cleveland organization

Hired:
Gregg Williams replaces Ray Horton as Browns' defensive coordinator
Jaguars-Doug Marrone with assistance from Tom Coughlin-cough cough
Rams- Sean McVay Redskins OC hired by the Rams as their new HC.
Chargers/Ermines- Anthony Lynn---WHO?
Rams-Wade Phillips Named Rams DC
Bills-coach Sean McDermott and GM Doug Whaley.


Moving
The San Diego Chargers to become the Los Angeles Ermines?

[displacedinMN]

The Los Angeles Rams have requested an interview with Bills interim coach Anthony Lynn, sources tell ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

[BryanBusby]

I think the Saints would really have to be wowed with a trade offer. Too many teams looking in a shitty ass pool.

Texans and Colts might hang onto their coaches for another year for the same reason.

[DJ's left nut]

Poor Chuck Pagano.

The guy's going to get cursed as not being able to win with Andrew Luck but the fact remains that Ryan Grigson is so incredibly bad at his job that he manages to undercut any advantage that comes with having Luck.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Poor Chuck Pagano.

The guy's going to get cursed as not being able to win with Andrew Luck but the fact remains that Ryan Grigson is so incredibly bad at his job that he manages to undercut any advantage that comes with having Luck.

There's actually been some rumor about Pagano to Denver.

I dunno how I'd feel about that.

And in regards to Luck, I agree to a degree, but man, Luck still does alot of shit I didn't think he'd be doing by now. Are we really that sure he's what we thought he'd be?

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by O.city

There's actually been some rumor about Pagano to Denver.

I dunno how I'd feel about that.

And in regards to Luck, I agree to a degree, but man, Luck still does alot of shit I didn't think he'd be doing by now. Are we really that sure he's what we thought he'd be?

I don't think Luck will ever be as good as Manning or Brady, which is the standard he's held too, but he's still a top 5 quarterback who's just entering his prime.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

I don't think Luck will ever be as good as Manning or Brady, which is the standard he's held too, but he's still a top 5 quarterback who's just entering his prime.

A top 5 qb? I don't think so.

Top 5 qbs don't do things he does. It's not just losing games, he's in a bad situation sure. But they lose games because he throws alot of interceptions.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

I don't think Luck will ever be as good as Manning or Brady, which is the standard he's held too, but he's still a top 5 quarterback who's just entering his prime.

Remember Manning and the Colts went though some growing pains and struggles early in his career after some initial success under Jim Mora.

I think the right HC/offensive coaching staff will win big with Andrew Luck.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

I don't think Luck will ever be as good as Manning or Brady, which is the standard he's held too, but he's still a top 5 quarterback who's just entering his prime.

It's easy to forget now, but it took Manning 6 years to even win a playoff game.

Luck has already won multiple playoff games and been to the AFC title game. And he's done it without much on defense. The QBs who are successful early, Roethlisberger, Russell Wilson, Dak this year... all of them had elite top 5 defenses behind them. Not just some of them, all of them. Luck has been asked to basically carry that entire franchise. He's never had a top defense, and recently he's had a terrible offensive line. On top of that, a terrible GM who seems to hamstring the team every chance he gets. You give him the 2013 Seahawks defense, and watch what happens.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Poor Chuck Pagano.

The guy's going to get cursed as not being able to win with Andrew Luck but the fact remains that Ryan Grigson is so incredibly bad at his job that he manages to undercut any advantage that comes with having Luck.

They're both awful and need to go. Grigson for the TRich trade and countless other FA and draft gaffes and Pagano because he's an AWFUL coach, from the confoundingly dumb fake punt to the horrible record against winning teams to the fact that they consistently are sluggish and unprepared to play.

If it weren't for Luck and Hasselbeck playing out of his mind for several games last year, their record would be WELL below 500%.

[Mile High Mania]

It will be interesting to see which new names appear as first time HC's... I think the Jags would be mistaken to lure Coughlin from retirement, the dude is 70.

McDaniels will find a new home and possibly do better the 2nd time around. Would be interesting to see him go to SF and trade for Jimmy G. Rams gig is interesting, but you're rebuilding without a first rounder this year and lots of issues.

Grab your popcorn.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

It will be interesting to see which new names appear as first time HC's... I think the Jags would be mistaken to lure Coughlin from retirement, the dude is 70.

McDaniels will find a new home and possibly do better the 2nd time around. Would be interesting to see him go to SF and trade for Jimmy G. Rams gig is interesting, but you're rebuilding without a first rounder this year and lots of issues.

Grab your popcorn.

The talking heads around here seems to favor trying to lure Jon Gruden out of retirement and if that doesn't work, go for either Todd Haley or Josh McDaniel.

I think Coughlin is their fallback position considering all the ties he has here to this town. Plus some believe his form of heavy handed coaching is what the Jags need to bring into line the different characters on the team.

[RippedmyFlesh]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

The talking heads around here seems to favor trying to lure Jon Gruden out of retirement and if that doesn't work, go for either Todd Haley or Josh McDaniel.

I think Coughlin is their fallback position considering all the ties he has here to this town. Plus some believe his form of heavy handed coaching is what the Jags need to bring into line the different characters on the team.

Haley would provide that. I would like to see him get another shot.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

Haley would provide that. I would like to see him get another shot.

I guess you see Haley differently than I do....he may have matured from a personality point of view, but I see him no differently than I and others see Wade Phillips......a great assistant coach but nowhere near Head Coach material.

[burt]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

I guess you see Haley differently than I do....he may have matured from a personality point of view, but I see him no differently than I and others see Wade Phillips......a great assistant coach but nowhere near Head Coach material.

Perfectly said.