Gladiator 2018 - Round 1, Match 2 - stumppy versus Chiefs4thewin

[Rain Man]

Vote for the person that you think would win this match in a battle to death or submission. As background, assume that prior to the tournament you received 10 minutes of training on every weapon. The time listed is the amount of time before the match where you learn what the weaponry and venue is.



Venue - a pre-school full of children
Starting Distance - 51 feet


stumppy

Main Weapon - Crossbow and 6 bolts
Backup Weapon - None

Prep Time - 55 seconds
Special Factors - None


Chiefs4thewin

Main Weapon - Native American bow and 6 arrows
Backup Weapon - 20 sharp small ninja stars

Prep Time - 6 Minutes
Special Factors - None

[Hydrae]

Originally Posted by Shag

Chiefs4thewin just needs to dodge the first bolt, which shouldn't be too hard given the newness of the weapon. If he succeeds, he can just charge at stumppy, chucking stars - stumppy will never be able to reload the crossbow. Get close enough to do some damage with the stars, weakening stumppy's resistance, then either shoot close range with the bow, or just go stabby-stabby with the longer arrows of the bow.

The crossbow reload time and difficulty makes it a hindrance in this fight.

My thought as well.

Question: Can either of them grab a kid to use as a shield? If they both do that this may just be a stalemate.

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by wazu

One factor not yet mentioned: Chiefs4thewin has 6 minutes to hand out the ninja stars to children and teach them the “Stab Stummpy” game.

This. Chiefs4thewin is the winner. Sorry, Stump.

Also, Wu-Tang is for the children.

[Renegade]

Chiefs4theWin. Even if both participants get their shots off, the arrow will be easier to retrieve versus the bolt, plus the Native American bow has withstood the test of time as a classic weapon.

[srvy]

[srvy]

Stumpy going to look like Timmons.

[stumppy]

Looks like I have a lot of two legged shields around me. Those kids aren't going to be throwing anything while they're busy catching stars and arrows.

[stumppy]

I'd also like to add that nobody picks up a bow and arrow and shoots hits a damn thing with it before they had lots of practice. I can put the cross hairs on any target the second I aim.

[TLO]

I think Chiefs wins this one, but it's close.

[Sorce]

I picked Chiefs, I think they both shoot each other and die from their injuries and get eaten by preschoolers.

[Indian Chief]

stumppy could conceivably one-shot Chiefs4thewin

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'm kind of fascinated by how people develop things independently. The Native Americans and Mongols both developed bows before 1492, right? It seems like that's a pretty specific technology to develop.

You look at things like pottery and clothing and language and cities and stuff, and it seems like there's a cookbook for developing civilization, and everyone follows it. You may have a few oddities like the Native Americans not smelting ores, but for the most part there seems to be a set progression.

I find it very interesting as well.

Perhaps the bow and arrow was developed fairly early in human history, before the diaspora and subsequent isolations.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I find it very interesting as well.

Perhaps the bow and arrow was developed fairly early in human history, before the diaspora and subsequent isolations.

Hmm, I wouldn't have guessed that, but a little googling seems to indicate that early signs of bows and arrows date from 60,000 to 70,000 years ago in South Africa, so you could be on to something.

It looks like humans got north to the Middle East about 100,000 years ago, but perhaps the technology would have spread over thousands of years from a single invention point. And then the Bering Strait migration was only about 15,000 years ago, so they could've brought the technology with them.

It's weird to think that bows and arrows are that old. So when the European settlers were coming to the New World, they were greeted by Indians who were using technology from the Old World.

[threebag]

Stumppy only has 55 seconds to fold his Caitlyn Jenner nude and put it in his pocket.

That will cost him in the end

stumppy RIP

[Graystoke]

I have to go stumpy, by a thin margin. A Crossbow is accurate and he will be a one shot chump to the head of c4tw

Hoping kids get shot though.

[Rain Man]

Here's an interesting article describing the oldest arrowheads that were found. Apparently the archaeologists distinguished them from spearheads due to the patterns of chipping and impact damage and the presence of glue residue.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-11086110

Another website discussed the fact that stone tools were developed nearly 2.5 million years before the bow and arrow, which isn't really that old in the scheme of things. When reproducing a bow and arrow, it took a combination of 22 natural materials and three compound materials, which means that it took a lot more work to develop. The article said that it was also a huge cognitive leap because it's really a weapons system rather than a simple weapon. The bow and the interchangeable arrows are complex to envision if it's never been done before.

I bet the guy who invented it never bought another beer in his life. Imagine some dude showing this to you and letting you realize that you'll never have to charge a woolly mammoth again.