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Old 11-06-2012, 03:35 AM  
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Pro Football Reference's simple rating system and the 2012 Chiefs
Read this post slowly and carefully. Do not skip to the end. You need to fully comprehend the content of this post to appreciate the impact of the message.

The SRS on PFR is a great tool to compare teams historically beyond W-L record. A definition:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=538

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To refresh your memory, it’s a system that’s been around forever and is extremely basic compared some of the other power rating systems out there. But I like it because it’s easy to understand.

An average team will have a rating of zero. An above average team will have a positive rating while a below average team will have a negative rating.

Every team will have a rating that is the equal to their average point margin plus the average of their opponent’s ratings, so the teams’ ratings are all interdependent.

The Colts’ rating depends upon the ratings of all their opponents, which depends upon the ratings of all their opponents (some of which are the Colts), and so on.
Let's take a look at some SRS for good Chiefs teams.



1968 +14.0
1969 +11.9

1997 +8.4
2003 +8.3


Let's take a look at some SRS for bad Chiefs teams.




2008 -9.2
1988 -5.7
1977 -4.9


Let's take a look at some SRS for bad teams throughout NFL history.

This is the SRS rating for the worst teams these franchises have fielded. Any franchise that did not hit close to -15 or worse was excluded.




2000 Cardinals -15.2
1966 Falcons -15.5
2000 Browns -14.6
1960 Cowboys -14.8
2009 Lions -14.4
1950 Packers -18.2
1991 Colts -17.3
2012 Jaguars -15.5
1972 Patriots -17.4
1966 Giants -16.8
1965 Steelers -18.3
1976 Seahawks -15.1
2009 Rams -17.4
1976 Oilers -16.8


You may have noticed I left out all of Scott Pioli's Chiefs teams.

Let's take a look at those juggernauts!



2009 -8.4
2010 -0.7
2011 -8.1


Ouch. Even when Pioli fielded a winning team, it had a negative rating. Overrated team? Yes.


We're about to get to the 2012 Chiefs. Hang tight.


Are you ready for this, Scott?



YOU'RE NOT GONNA LIKE THIS, PIOLI.



GET READY TO BURN, YOU FRAUD!!!!





The Three Worst Teams In NFL History.


T-1. 1976 Bucs -19.7

T-1. 1954 Redskins -19.7

2. 2012 Kansas City Chiefs -18.4


Hang tight, boys. Eight games left. We can still field...

The Worst Team In NFL History.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:01 PM   #106
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I think it's time to step up the game.

Here's the bottom line for me:

It's not just that they're losing. It's not JUST that they're HISTORICALLY inept.

It's that they're also "my shit don't stink" assholes that treat the fans like sheep and their Patriot Way buddies like kings.

I love football and I love the Kansas City Chiefs. But I'm at the point where I WISH to all that is Holy that I could quit. I would love nothing more at this point than to not care about this team anymore and move on.
The only thing that bothered me about last Sunday's game was that there wasn't the comedic value of a Cassel game. Nary an upright was struck. Nary a flea flicker was batted down by a D-Lineman. Even the dick in the dirt aborted screen pass seemed derivative of Cassel's earlier work.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:06 PM   #107
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The only thing that bothered me about last Sunday's game was that there wasn't the comedic value of a Cassel game. Nary an upright was struck. Nary a flea flicker was batted down by a D-Lineman. Even the dick in the dirt aborted screen pass seemed derivative of Cassel's earlier work.
Have you forgotten about the Hillis to Quinn halfback throwback?

On 3rd and 3, when we'd been running the ball down their throats?

Or perhaps I can interest you in a timeout being called on 4th down, only to see the Chiefs punt the ball away?
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:22 PM   #108
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****!

Our SRS is at -12.8 now after a competitive game.

Dream is dying...
toldja that 2008 team was ****ing horrible
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:24 PM   #109
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What does that have to do with anything? The 2012 team is still 4.8 SRS points worse.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:28 PM   #110
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ya but that 08 team was just bad man. the only reason they weren't record breaking horrible is because TG got everybody thinking Tyler Thigpen could make some noise. otherwise, that team was twice as bad as this one is, it's just that this staff is ****ing lame. the QB's aren't different, just shades of poop.
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one thing is for sure -- Brian Daboll is not going to get another OC job in the NFL hahahaha now way.
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ya but that 08 team was just bad man. the only reason they weren't record breaking horrible is because TG got everybody thinking Tyler Thigpen could make some noise. otherwise, that team was twice as bad as this one is, it's just that this staff is ****ing lame. the QB's aren't different, just shades of poop.
Disagree. This team is slightly more talented, but not by much.

And Thigpen is a better QB than Quinn by far.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:18 PM   #113
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Disagree. This team is slightly more talented, but not by much.

And Thigpen is a better QB than Quinn by far.
they are, young but more talent than that 08 team. Thigs better? well, I'll let that slide
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they are, young but more talent than that 08 team. Thigs better? well, I'll let that slide
Has Quinn ever thrown 20 TD passes in a season? Thigpen did.
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Well, shit.

With that win we're at -11.3.

Still shitty but the dream appears dead.

Still the worst team in franchise history.
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Well that sucks. Lets just pray for 2-14. I'm glad they won this game without hurting draft position, but it's time to get serious on the goal at hand.
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