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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 11-02-2015, 06:51 PM   #31
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Starting pitching has to get better. I don't feel good about anybody except Volquez.
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Old 11-02-2015, 06:51 PM   #32
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Old 11-02-2015, 06:54 PM   #33
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Wow. I figured Ned would go out on top. But having a few more years in this window of winning would be hard to leave.
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Old 11-02-2015, 06:59 PM   #34
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Yeah, we've got two years left in this window, and Andy wrote a follow up tweet that Yost wants to get to 1000 wins... plus he gets to manage the ASG next year.

Although, Tony LaRussa retired and still managed the ASG the next year.
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Old 11-02-2015, 07:02 PM   #35
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Old 11-02-2015, 07:03 PM   #36
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Does Duffy move back to starter or remain in the bullpen ?
Duffy was much better out of the BP than he was as a starter.
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Old 11-02-2015, 07:13 PM   #38
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Does Duffy move back to starter or remain in the bullpen ?

They'll put him back in the rotation, but I don't think you can rely on him for 200 IP. That's why signing a more stable/higher end SP like Leake makes sense to me.

If Duffy doesn't work in the rotation, that could be a big insurance factor.

You have to try him back there, though, because of how effective he was in 2014 and how valuable lefties who throw hard can be.
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Old 11-02-2015, 07:17 PM   #39
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Do aces matter?
Cueto pitched like one.

Really though, our starters pitched 31.1 IP, 19 H, 12 ER, 11 BB, 20 K.

The Mets starters: 30 IP, 30 H, 14 ER, 9 BB, 24 K.

Now that includes Young's relief appearance, which may be cheating, but he was part of the postseason rotation group. In general our guys went toe to toe with theirs. Pretty solid.
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Doesnt TB pretty much only pitch starters twice through the lineup and thats it?
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They'll put him back in the rotation, but I don't think you can rely on him for 200 IP. That's why signing a more stable/higher end SP like Leake makes sense to me.

If Duffy doesn't work in the rotation, that could be a big insurance factor.

You have to try him back there, though, because of how effective he was in 2014 and how valuable lefties who throw hard can be.
He's a mortal lock for the rotation.

What happens to Outfante? Obviously we are stuck with the 16M left, that's not my question - but rather: does he HAVE to start next year to justify what we are paying him? Colon is the prototypical Royal and he was ready to start this year anyway. Would hate to see him blocked.


Would like to see Dyson start in CF and Cain move to RF. Sure seemed like his range declined 2H this year and his bat has enough power to justify a corner OF spot. I'd take every dime avail and give it to Gordon or Zo to play LF.
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Old 11-02-2015, 07:38 PM   #44
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What happens to Outfante? Obviously we are stuck with the 16M left, that's not my question - but rather: does he HAVE to start next year to justify what we are paying him? Colon is the prototypical Royal and he was ready to start this year anyway. Would hate to see him blocked.





Would like to see Dyson start in CF and Cain move to RF. Sure seemed like his range declined 2H this year and his bat has enough power to justify a corner OF spot. I'd take every dime avail and give it to Gordon or Zo to play LF.

I would be all about trying to move Infante for a bag of balls if you can get someone to eat 1/2 the contract for you, but not sure that's feasible. If it isn't, he's on the MLB roster and I'm not sure they're willing to bench him.

Dyson in CF with Cain playing right works great against righties... But I'd still like to see a RH bat to protect Dyson vs. lefties.
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Old 11-02-2015, 07:45 PM   #45
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We gotta keep Gordo and Z-Man. Other than that - we need to find an everyday solution in RF (unless we just platoon Orlando and Dyson - which I'm fine with).

I feel like we should probably rework Salvy's deal to give him a little more $$$.

Other than that - maybe take a shot at signing Hoz and Moose long term?
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