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Direckshun · 12-03-2018, 12:34 AM

The Ravens are a uniquely weird team in Week 14 of the NFL season.

They're weird because their QB position is a great unknown.

Joe Flacco is, of course, the world's most underwhelming Super Bowl MVP, and has sucked this year. We know who he is, we have millions of hours of underwhelming tape to depressingly watch. And he returned to practice this week, but did not play, Eric Berry style.

But that might change. He may see the field.

Which is interesting, because their backup QB, Lamar Jackson, a 1st round selection by the Ravens (albeit with the 32nd pick), is a very weird player. He runs, and runs, and runs with the ball. His completion percentage is a not-terrible 60%. And he's only played three weeks, so tape on him is slim.

We know this: he is fast, he is not afraid to run the ball, and he's a damn gazelle when he does.

The good news: we can probably spy him. His weapons are bleak. Alex Collins is his #1 RB, and he's averaging 3.6 yards a carry. His #1 receiver is John Brown, who initially looked like Tyreek Hill when he first hit the league, but has since statistically slowed down and is now just a good receiver with very difficult speed to account for. Michael Crabtree is their #2 alongside Willie Snead, and Tyreek Hill has more yardage than both of those guys combined, but Crabtree has had good games against us in the past.

As a result, the Ravens are still somehow 13th in the league in yardage, they are averaging 25 points a game.

The Ravens have good pass protection, as they've only given up like 25 sacks or something like that. Ronnie Stanley is their LT.

But really, the Ravens offense wins by trying to run the ball, passing decently, and then letting Lamar Jackson get creative.

As far as the defense is concerned.................. biggest test of the year right here folks.

#1 rated defense in yardage (they're allowing under 300 yards/game).
#1 rated defense in points (they're allowing 17 points/game).

I think it's safe to say we're going to beat those averages but they should still slow us down pretty significantly. I don't know if Patty will have another 4 TD game here.

The Ravens get good pressure on the QB -- they're 9th in the league in sacks, and the pressure comes from everywhere. Suggs has always played well against us but he only has 5.5 this year. They blitz a good amount.

Simply put, the Ravens pass defense will be the biggest challenge Mahomes faces all year. They're allowing under 200 yards passing all season. Eric Weddle is a goddamn general at the back of their defense, and they've got a solid corner or two despite the fact that none of their corners are true ballhawks. Brandon Carr will make a rare appearance against the Chiefs, which is whatever, but he's apparently playing well.

The Ravens have a mean defensive line, and maybe the meanest NT in the league in Brandon Williams. I'm willing to bet they drop everyone in coverage, smother Kelce, and dare Spencer Ware to beat their DL. That's a very tall order, and I don't think our run game is up to the challenge. Mahomes will need to tap every ounce of his MVP talent to get yardage.

In special teams, they have arguably the greatest kicker in modern NFL history in Justin Tucker. They've had one punt return for a TD.

They're 7-5. They're on a three game win streak. Lamar Jackson has started all three games.

Their wins: Bills, Broncos, @Steelers, @Titans, Bengals (no Dalton), Raiders, @Falcons
Losses: @Bengals (Dalton), @Browns, Saints, @Panthers, Steelers

That schedule is all over the place. They beat Pitt in Pitt, but pathetically lose to the Browns. The most damning game on the schedule is the Saints game, where they only lost by a point.

How is this team so good? I've asked before. They have no elite talent on offense and are still racking up yardage and point. They have a damn good defense but don't intercept the ball and they don't have any sack masters like the Chiefs do.

What is going on?

htismaqe · 12-03-2018, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I forgot, you're here to tell us all how great our defense is.....

Funny how you just ignore facts and go straight to "defense sucks". Must be rough having a one-track mind.

**petegz28** · 12-03-2018, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Funny how you just ignore facts and go straight to "defense sucks". Must be rough having a one-track mind.

The defense does suck...

**ptlyon** · 12-03-2018, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mikezpen

Ravens fan here.A few thoughts.

We may or may not be a legitimate contender at this point. I don't know if we are that good. But we've changed radically for the better with Lamar Jackson's emergence at QB.Teams have to spread their defense to contain him, and that makes them vulnerable to the straight-ahead running game. Gus Edwards has killed teams running between the tackles and has over 300 yards in three games. With the running game, we dominate time of possession, and we'll have to do that to beat the Chiefs.We need to keep your offense on the bench as we did Atlanta's or we're dead.

Jackson isn't an accomplished passer to be sure, that's our weakness.Hope he improves Sunday because you'll stack about 20 guys in the box to kill our running game!

But the defense held Atlanta's QB to the lowest passing yardage in his career Sunday. Our defense is legit, although it's more of a faceless unit than a bunch of individual standouts.

We also have the best kicker in the immediate world if the game's real close.

This said, I believe you will probably win the game. But we're good enough to be pretty dangerous, so you'd better come to play. Hopefully your team is looking ahead to the Chargers. That would help.

Yeah, well, we are about to sign Charcandrick West. So you're just going to have to deal with that.

Seriously though, welcome aboard!

htismaqe · 12-03-2018, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

The defense does suck...

I never said it didn't. That may have been lost on you in your fervor to be a dumbass.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-03-2018, 12:36 PM

You guys realize they are slight poverty Denver, right?

BryanBusby · 12-03-2018, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I never said it didn't. That may have been lost on you in your fervor to be a dumbass.

I'm not sure your point means anything either. How many 13-3'ish kind of years with the eventual first round collapse when the major red flags are exposed by a strong team does it take?

Sure the team is 10-2 with an awful Defense, but it's going to get them eventually. It always does.

RunKC · 12-03-2018, 12:40 PM

This is the type of game that made Kareem Hunt extremely valuable for us. We need Ware to step up and break some tackles.

The Ravens have a damn good front 7 that doesn’t need help stopping the run or defending passes in the flat. It’s crucial that we make plays and change that.

htismaqe · 12-03-2018, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I'm not sure your point means anything either. How many 13-3'ish kind of years with the eventual first round collapse when the major red flags are exposed by a strong team does it take?

Sure the team is 10-2 with an awful Defense, but it's going to get them eventually. It always does.

How many of those years have they had an all-world QB?

It's nice to see that ChiefsPlanet is 100% full of crap when it comes to the QB position.

htismaqe · 12-03-2018, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

You guys realize they are slight poverty Denver, right?

The defense is terrible. It's the end of the world.

ntexascardfan · 12-03-2018, 12:53 PM

The key to Sunday is to keep Jackson in the pocket. Three down line men, and then put two spies on him.

Force him to throw for 300 yards on us into 7 men in coverage. Don't let him loose on the edges an make him read the secondary.

He'll turn the ball over 4 times if you force him to make decisions with the football that don't include his legs.

Marcellus · 12-03-2018, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

How many of those years have they had an all-world QB?

It's nice to see that ChiefsPlanet is 100% full of crap when it comes to the QB position.

All you have to do is go to the Mahomes gif thread and watch the gifs of just this last game.

Mahomes can carry this team on a day where only he and Kelce were on.

****ing Harris was our second leading receiver yesterday and we put up 40 points.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-03-2018, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

All you have to do is go to the Mahomes gif thread and watch the gifs of just this last game.

Mahomes can carry this team on a day where only he and Kelce were on.

****ing Harris was our second leading receiver yesterday and we put up 40 points.

Mahomeboy carried the team last year with only Albert Wilson and Harris making plays alongside the RB, Sausage.

Iconic · 12-03-2018, 01:08 PM

This is the second easiest game remaining on our schedule. Will be a definite win. Ravens will run themselves into a situation where they are forced to pass to keep pace. Lamar won't be able to. I'm expecting at least two turnovers from him. The D won't be amazing but it'll get the stops it needs.

BryanBusby · 12-03-2018, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

How many of those years have they had an all-world QB?

It's nice to see that ChiefsPlanet is 100% full of crap when it comes to the QB position.

This Defense has gone an entire game without forcing a single punt. You guys never ****ing learn

htismaqe · 12-03-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

This Defense has gone an entire game without forcing a single punt. You guys never ****ing learn

You didn't answer my question.

And you're right, I don't ever learn. Just when I think that Chiefsplanet can collectively pull it's head out...

Welp.

12-03-2018, 12:34 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4443447	Let's talk about the Ravens. The Ravens are a uniquely weird team in Week 14 of the NFL season. They're weird because their QB position is a great unknown. Joe Flacco is, of course, the world's most underwhelming Super Bowl MVP, and has sucked this year. We know who he is, we have millions of hours of underwhelming tape to depressingly watch. And he returned to practice this week, but did not play, Eric Berry style. But that might change. He may see the field. Which is interesting, because their backup QB, Lamar Jackson, a 1st round selection by the Ravens (albeit with the 32nd pick), is a very weird player. He runs, and runs, and runs with the ball. His completion percentage is a not-terrible 60%. And he's only played three weeks, so tape on him is slim. We know this: he is fast, he is not afraid to run the ball, and he's a damn gazelle when he does. The good news: we can probably spy him. His weapons are bleak. Alex Collins is his #1 RB, and he's averaging 3.6 yards a carry. His #1 receiver is John Brown, who initially looked like Tyreek Hill when he first hit the league, but has since statistically slowed down and is now just a good receiver with very difficult speed to account for. Michael Crabtree is their #2 alongside Willie Snead, and Tyreek Hill has more yardage than both of those guys combined, but Crabtree has had good games against us in the past. As a result, the Ravens are still somehow 13th in the league in yardage, they are averaging 25 points a game. The Ravens have good pass protection, as they've only given up like 25 sacks or something like that. Ronnie Stanley is their LT. But really, the Ravens offense wins by trying to run the ball, passing decently, and then letting Lamar Jackson get creative. As far as the defense is concerned.................. biggest test of the year right here folks. #1 rated defense in yardage (they're allowing under 300 yards/game). #1 rated defense in points (they're allowing 17 points/game). I think it's safe to say we're going to beat those averages but they should still slow us down pretty significantly. I don't know if Patty will have another 4 TD game here. The Ravens get good pressure on the QB -- they're 9th in the league in sacks, and the pressure comes from everywhere. Suggs has always played well against us but he only has 5.5 this year. They blitz a good amount. Simply put, the Ravens pass defense will be the biggest challenge Mahomes faces all year. They're allowing under 200 yards passing all season. Eric Weddle is a goddamn general at the back of their defense, and they've got a solid corner or two despite the fact that none of their corners are true ballhawks. Brandon Carr will make a rare appearance against the Chiefs, which is whatever, but he's apparently playing well. The Ravens have a mean defensive line, and maybe the meanest NT in the league in Brandon Williams. I'm willing to bet they drop everyone in coverage, smother Kelce, and dare Spencer Ware to beat their DL. That's a very tall order, and I don't think our run game is up to the challenge. Mahomes will need to tap every ounce of his MVP talent to get yardage. In special teams, they have arguably the greatest kicker in modern NFL history in Justin Tucker. They've had one punt return for a TD. They're 7-5. They're on a three game win streak. Lamar Jackson has started all three games. Their wins: Bills, Broncos, @Steelers, @Titans, Bengals (no Dalton), Raiders, @Falcons Losses: @Bengals (Dalton), @Browns, Saints, @Panthers, Steelers That schedule is all over the place. They beat Pitt in Pitt, but pathetically lose to the Browns. The most damning game on the schedule is the Saints game, where they only lost by a point. How is this team so good? I've asked before. They have no elite talent on offense and are still racking up yardage and point. They have a damn good defense but don't intercept the ball and they don't have any sack masters like the Chiefs do. What is going on?
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