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Old 10-06-2013, 11:01 PM  
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Better Call Saul


As I am sure many of y'all already know, a spinoff of "Breaking Bad" titled "Better Call Saul" will be airing in 2014. This is going to be a prequel to Breaking Bad and will be based on the character of Saul Goodman from "Breaking Bad."

I, for one, will be watching. I'm sure the majority of all of you other "Breaking Bad" fans will be as well. Might as well get the discussion going sooner rather than later.

So... what are your hopes, expectations and/or concerns with the show? Here are some of mine:

Hopes: I hope to see Saul do his thing in the courtroom. I hope to see strong, unique supporting characters. I hope to see Breaking Bad foreshadowing. I hope he has an intriguing paralegal and/or assistant. I hope to see Breaking Bad characters such as Fring, Mike, etc...whoever. I hope the show kicks ass.

Expectations: I don't expect it to be as good as "Breaking Bad" (because nothing else is, really), but I expect it to be good since Vince Gilligan is writing. I somewhat expect it to have an even balance of comedy and drama...since Saul undeniably provides a substantial amount of comedic relief in "Breaking Bad." I expect to see "courtroom Saul." I expect the "Breaking Bad" references and character cameos to be less than what I hope. If it isn't even a fraction as good as "Breaking Bad," I expect it to be better than 95% of everything else on TV, since there is some shitty shit on TV these days.

Concerns: I'd be a liar if I were to say that I didn't think this show has potential of flopping and certainly failing to meet the presumed high expectations of the audience. Don't get me wrong, I think it will be good... but I think it COULD suck if not executed properly. My main concern is Saul ultimately proving himself to be a "little dab will do ya" type of character, which would lead to a show centered around his character not working out. I am hoping that the character of Saul will not be so over-used and constantly over the top, that he becomes annoying to me, thus ruining his character for me altogether... Not saying I think this will be how it goes down...just saying I think there is a CHANCE of this being the case, which prompts me to believe that a strong supporting cast is VITAL in terms of the amount of success/quality this show will accumulate. All in all, I don't think VG will steer us in an unfortunate direction though...I think they'll pull it off.

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Old 04-19-2016, 07:35 PM   #1006
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Entrapment is when a law enforcement officer induces you to commit a crime. Chuck isn't law enforcement and he just tricked Jimmy into incriminating himself, not into committing the crime in the first place.
Look at who made the comment
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Old 04-19-2016, 08:35 PM   #1007
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Don't forget about Gus's "partner".

He doesn't get taken out for a while if I remember correctly.

Gus will learn a lesson about half-measures, too. If he stopped Mike from taking out the uncle, the uncle ends up killing his partner by the pool.
I feel like that event was prior to the events we are witnessing now.

I imagine Gus doesn't want Mike taking out Hector because he could be considered responsible for it and also because he likely wants to be the one who eventually takes out Hector, assuming this is after what happened in the BB flashback.
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Old 04-19-2016, 09:17 PM   #1008
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I feel like that event was prior to the events we are witnessing now.

I imagine Gus doesn't want Mike taking out Hector because he could be considered responsible for it and also because he likely wants to be the one who eventually takes out Hector, assuming this is after what happened in the BB flashback.
According to Vince in a podcast, the event with Gus and the partner at Don Eladio's was 20 years ago.
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:24 PM   #1009
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According to Vince in a podcast, the event with Gus and the partner at Don Eladio's was 20 years ago.
Hector is definitely older in BCS than he was in that BB scene.

I'm preferring the Mike storyline more than Jimmy's right now.
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:08 PM   #1010
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The whole thing that Chuck did sounds like entrapment, especially if he's the only party that knows it's being recorded.
You might as well say it sounds like jaywalking, because that's about how close it is to entrapment.
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:34 PM   #1011
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:46 PM   #1012
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I really love how Saul is building those leadership skills nessessary for Cinnibon down the line.
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:57 PM   #1013
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Look at who made the comment
Hey asshole, believe it or not but I did know that. I wasn't using it in the criminal law way regarding He lured his brother into making a compromising statement. Likely done to get him prosecuted for his crime.

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Old 04-20-2016, 12:00 AM   #1014
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Entrapment is when a law enforcement officer induces you to commit a crime. Chuck isn't law enforcement and he just tricked Jimmy into incriminating himself, not into committing the crime in the first place.
No kidding, Chuck isn't law enforcement? Well, I'll be, I thought he was a policeman.

You do know the word has other meanings outside of criminal law right?

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Old 04-20-2016, 12:08 AM   #1015
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You might as well say it sounds like jaywalking, because that's about how close it is to entrapment.
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Old 04-20-2016, 12:14 AM   #1016
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Old 04-20-2016, 06:03 AM   #1017
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That would be Jimmy breaking bad. There's no evidence he would do this. He sabotaged chuck to save Kim not because he wanted revenge. He twice had the choice to save his ass or save his brother. Both times he picked his brother. If Jimmy does that that's a huge change in his character.
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Old 04-20-2016, 06:08 AM   #1018
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Don't forget about Gus's "partner".

He doesn't get taken out for a while if I remember correctly.

Gus will learn a lesson about half-measures, too. If he stopped Mike from taking out the uncle, the uncle ends up killing his partner by the pool.
I think at the point in time this story is taking place....Gus's partner is already gone. that happened a long time ago.

amiright?

EDIT - nebba mine...already been covered
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no matter WHO it ends up being that was honking Mikes horn (man that sounds wrong!)....it's gonna be just so NOT believable.
he's in the middle of nowhere....how the hell is someone gonna follow him unnoticed.
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no matter WHO it ends up being that was honking Mikes horn (man that sounds wrong!)....it's gonna be just so NOT believable.
he's in the middle of nowhere....how the hell is someone gonna follow him unnoticed.
The writers have a way of wrapping this up in a very nice little package.
Don't you worry about it.
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