Chiefs Combine Rumors: Dorsey says Chiefs are "Out of the FA Market" - Page 7

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-03-2017, 10:29 AM

Well, this is interesting.....

http://draftanalyst.com/combine-repo...cy-rumors-more

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General manager John Dorsey has told people here in Indianapolis that the Kansas City Chiefs are out of the free-agent market after the team recently re-signed safety Eric Berry and guard Laurent Duvernay-Tardif to large contracts.

Whether you want to believe it or not is your call, but it makes sense as to why he might be saying that given our cap situation. With most of the roster already still intact, it is possible that Dorsey decides to roll with their draft class and some late veteran additions on vet contracts.

BryanBusby · 03-04-2017, 12:14 AM

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We'll see.

A lot of that is going to be eaten up by increases in the salaries of guys like Kelce, Parker, Bailey, Berry, Duvernay-Tardiff, a likely extension for Morse. Nevertheless, assume they have several tens of millions to play with. Are you going to be able to add enough to win with a 35-year-old Alex Smith? If not, who are you replacing him with?

I think the bigger question is, Will Alex be on the roster in 2018?

I don't think you can look at 3500 15 TD and say yep, that's worth 20.6 mil.

Nickhead · 03-04-2017, 12:23 AM

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I think the bigger question is, Will Alex be on the roster in 2018?

I don't think you can look at 3500 15 TD and say yep, that's worth 20.6 mil.

see, if alex had rushed for another 400 yards last season, you could at least say he didn't regress any. but man those footsteps you hear in your rear view mirror get loud after a couple shots to the head. without his head on his legs he is at best alex cassell.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-04-2017, 12:28 AM

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Draft a QB in the first couple rounds and have him sit behind Smith for a year.
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Oh, but there just a few pieces away. Add another WR/S/CB/ILB/RB and Smith will have enough to take them to the promised land. Why waste a premium pick on a guy who can't help right now?

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-04-2017, 01:23 AM

The Chiefs will have over $50M in cap space next offseason by cutting Smith, DJ, and Hali. Those look like easy calls at this point, assuming you have a capable QB ready and DJ doesn't have another miraculous comeback.

The cap situation past this year isn't that bad at all.

-King- · 03-04-2017, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Oh, but there just a few pieces away. Add another WR/S/CB/ILB/RB and Smith will have enough to take them to the promised land. Why waste a premium pick on a guy who can't help right now?

I agree that they can go to the Superbowl with Smith. But I don't think they need so much this year that they can't afford to draft a QB to sit for a year. They have 4 picks in the first 3 round, that's more than enough to draft 3 players that can fill immediate needs and draft a QB that can sit for a year.
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Nickhead · 03-04-2017, 02:46 AM

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I agree that they can go to the Superbowl with Smith. But I don't think they need so much this year that they can't afford to draft a QB to sit for a year. They have 4 picks in the first 3 round, that's more than enough to draft 3 players that can fill immediate needs and draft a QB that can sit for a year.
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the only way smith can lead the chiefs to a super bowl, let alone a win in the game is assuming the chiefs finished 16-0 and the rest of the league finished 7-9

-King- · 03-04-2017, 03:34 AM

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the only way smith can lead the chiefs to a super bowl, let alone a win in the game is assuming the chiefs finished 16-0 and the rest of the league finished 7-9

Yeah because the QBs that have went to the Superbowl lately have had all time great playoff performances huh?
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Nickhead · 03-04-2017, 03:50 AM

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Yeah because the QBs that have went to the Superbowl lately have had all time great playoff performances huh? :Rolleyes:
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both mannings, ben, matt damon ( i mean brady ), brees, rodgers, etc...

you know what, they all LED THE ****ING LEAGUE IN SOMETHING OTHER THAN 6 YARD PASSES.

-King- · 03-04-2017, 04:11 AM

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both mannings, ben, matt damon ( i mean brady ), brees, rodgers, etc...

you know what, they all LED THE ****ING LEAGUE IN SOMETHING OTHER THAN 6 YARD PASSES.

Roethlisberger is ****ing terrible in the playoffs. Brees doesn't even make the playoffs. Rodgers is the poster child for losing in the divisional round.

Wtf are you even talking about?
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-King- · 03-04-2017, 04:15 AM

Brady is the only QB that consistently plays well in the playoffs. He's they only one that would be odds on favorite to go to the Superbowl any given year. All other QBs are a toss up.
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RunKC · 03-04-2017, 09:03 AM

I'd really like to see Dorsey do what Belichick has done so well.

Look at some failed first round picks in bad places that you liked before and get a 1st/2nd rd value for cheap. Bill does this all the time and Eric Rowe was his most recent example. Flat out steal.

**The Bad Guy** · 03-04-2017, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

We'll see.

A lot of that is going to be eaten up by increases in the salaries of guys like Kelce, Parker, Bailey, Berry, Duvernay-Tardiff, a likely extension for Morse. Nevertheless, assume they have several tens of millions to play with. Are you going to be able to add enough to win with a 35-year-old Alex Smith? If not, who are you replacing him with?

Their increases are already factored into that amount.

oldman · 03-04-2017, 09:38 AM

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Draft a QB in the first couple rounds and have him sit behind Smith for a year.
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I don't have a problem with this, except let's not over value a guy. In other words, don't spend a 1st on a guy that should be a 3rd rounder. We see this every year with teams like Cleveland and such. Just about every one of the 2017 class needs a lot of work and may never develop. The air raid offenses that some schools use just don't fit in the NFL. Yeah, the guy threw for a million yards and 20K TDs, but that's college. Can he read a defense, make the throws into tight coverage, etc., etc., etc.?

Hammock Parties · 03-04-2017, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

We'll see.

A lot of that is going to be eaten up by increases in the salaries of guys like Kelce, Parker, Bailey, Berry, Duvernay-Tardiff, a likely extension for Morse. Nevertheless, assume they have several tens of millions to play with. Are you going to be able to add enough to win with a 35-year-old Alex Smith? If not, who are you replacing him with?

The Chiefs can save around $37 million by cutting Smith, Maclin, Johnson and Hali next offseason. That would give them about $67 million in cap room.

But that doesn't include Berry and Tardif's contracts. So put them around $47 million if they cut those guys. That's only with 33 guys under contract though, 29 if they cut the aforementioned.

http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/kansas-city-chiefs/

Mother****erJones · 03-04-2017, 09:46 AM

Go nab Hightower. Get it done.

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