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Old 10-14-2017, 07:23 PM  
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is our defense really this bad?
After 5 games you can start to get a good indication of where you stand. Can we attribute this to our stiff competition and/or Watsons hail Mary's?

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Old 10-14-2017, 07:27 PM   #2
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It's probably a mixture of all of the things that you mentioned regarding our defense being ranked 27th, but consider this too... where we were at after 6 games just two seasons ago? Things can change fast... same goes for other teams.

I think if/when the defense gets near full strength (Healthier + Hali and Nelson), we will improve. Part of it has been scheme too though. A heavy bend don't break approach thus far.
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:28 PM   #3
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I think the defense plays a strategy that isn’t measured by the stats used to evaluate defensive efficiency.

They conceded to an extent, because certain players will have their day, but they also buckle down when necessary.

I am assuming the stats presented are yards allowed, which (in my opinion) means nothing. Points allowed is much more indicative of the Chiefs defense considering their strategy.
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:31 PM   #4
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They're really not bad... but frustrating, yes sir.

The tendency for most in-game is to be embarrassed, disgusted, and outraged at the defense. It sure feels like they give up huge run chunks, every 3rd down, every pass attempt..

and then you look at the final score, and you shake your head and say.. huh.. how bout that? Not nearly as awful as I'd thought.

Bottom line is.. it's ugly.. but they do seem to be clutch when it is needed.. so far. I understand the functionality of 34 OLBs.. but this D could be much better if Justin is QB hunting more. Might also be nice if they can get Zombo off the field, G'bless his try-hard-heart.

oh, and the 3 man rush can eat the biggest fattest of dicks.
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:32 PM   #5
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Bend but don’t break. We just allow a lot of big plays. We need some pressure. Hopefully Hali is back here soon
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:33 PM   #6
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I dunno guys. Methinks if we had philly or jax D, we'd be a dynasty in the making. Those stats after 5 games has me worried.
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I dunno guys. Methinks if we had philly or jax D, we'd be a dynasty in the making. Those stats after 5 games has me worried.
don't got the 2nd level LB-ing muscle for that..
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Probably. Not having Berry is a huge hole that guys like Murray, Gaines and Mitchell can't make up for, and the LBs outside of Houston are either old or just plain milquetoast. The DL outside of Jones is just OK.

Our best bet for improvement is Dee Ford beasting. If that doesn't happen I'd be shocked if they got any better.

Sutton is an amazing DC. A bad one would have this group giving up points in gobs.
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:38 PM   #9
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And I know this has been stated before but we are not utilizing Houston correctly. Right now he's our only pass rusher and needs someone with skills to spell him. Kpass may be a project but why not bring him in every 5th play?

I'd rather they got pressure and a pick than a sack...
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:45 PM   #11
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I don't think the defense is horrible, they've always been better at points over yards allowed under Sutton, and that's what is important.

That said, you're right that 17th in points and 27th in yards isn't what you'd consider a championship defense, regardless of who your QB is. Usually the champ has a top 10 defense. The Pats, Broncos, Seahawks all won with really solid D. The Falcons almost pulled it off with a poorly ranked defense last year, but you saw what happened there.
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Lol at people thinking the defense will improve if Grandpa Hali can come back.
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I don't think the defense is horrible, they've always been better at points over yards allowed under Sutton, and that's what is important.
Top 10 in yards allowed in 2014 and 2015.

They've fallen off.
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Lol at people thinking the defense will improve if Grandpa Hali can come back.
With that logic, you are saying that Zombo > Hali. Tamba might be old, but he still applied a lot of pressure given how many snaps he played last year.
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Season isn't over...we'll see where they end up.

They are stingy in the red zone.
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