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Old 04-01-2014, 03:51 PM  
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Another case against OG in 1st round
This article is a week or so old, so if Q, well suck it I don't care...

2013 All Pros, and where they were drafted.

http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral...t_round_o.html

1st Team OGs

Evan Mathis, PHI, 2005 3rd round, 79th overall
Louis Vasquez, DEN, 2009 3rd round, 78th overall

2nd Team OGs

Logan Mankins, NE, 1st Round, 32nd overall
Jahri Evans, NO, 4th Round, 108th overall
Josh Sitton, GB, 4th Round, 135th overall

One 1st round pick, maybe the best OG in the NFL and likely HOFer, the FINAL pick of the 1st round.

I don't care if the top WRs, pass rushers, Ss, CBs are gone by 23 and Martin is sitting right there, I still don't want to take him.

Interesting flip side, looking at All Pro DLineman, 1st and 2nd teamers, 7 of 8 guys were 1st rounders.

Also, apparently Peyton is so good, the 2nd team doesn't even need a QB. So mother **** you pioli!!!
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Old 04-02-2014, 04:20 PM   #61
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But you can't get a starting G in the 4th round. Some dumbass people.
You could, but it's not likely that he'll be able to start in his rookie year, which is what we need right now.
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You could, but it's not likely that he'll be able to start in his rookie year, which is what we need right now.
Not if we sign a vet FA that can do the job at RG for one year. Davin Joseph or Travelle Wharton are just a couple of viable options that would come at a good rate.
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Old 04-02-2014, 05:00 PM   #63
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Implicit trust in somebody that hasn't proven anything, and works for a team that hasn't won shit in decades.

THAT is what I don't get.
Right now I think the FO is an unknown.

They haven't proven good or bad so far. Too small a sample size.

I can say it's no small feat to go from winning 2 games to winning 11. I don't give a **** what kind of pansy cupcake schedule you've got. There was some good coaching going on somewhere...
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Right now I think the FO is an unknown.

They haven't proven good or bad so far. Too small a sample size.

I can say it's no small feat to go from winning 2 games to winning 11. I don't give a **** what kind of pansy cupcake schedule you've got. There was some good coaching going on somewhere...
That's exactly my point.

Why would you place implicit and unwavering trust in an unknown, especially given this franchise' history?
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IMO, the talent is too good in this draft to take a risk in the 1st. There are going to be at least a few as-pro-ready-as-possible players available for us at 23 who also have pro-bowl level potential. I don't think that Dorsey and Co will pass on that for a really high risk player, especially because we lack a 2nd round pick in this draft. They're going to have to hit at 23 if they can't trade back.
Which means they're probably going to look for the highest floor they can find.

Again.
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Not if we sign a vet FA that can do the job at RG for one year. Davin Joseph or Travelle Wharton are just a couple of viable options that would come at a good rate.
Sure, we all think that but judging from the lack of activity on the part of our FO in that department right now, it's not likely that they'll lean that way. Either that or they are waiting until after the draft to make those kind of signings.
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Which means they're probably going to look for the highest floor they can find.

Again.
Yup, which means the safe pick. Again. But we'll see. Dorsey does like to gamble on the higher potential guys if the past drafts that he's been involved in are anything to go by.
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Sure, we all think that but judging from the lack of activity on the part of our FO in that department right now, it's not likely that they'll lean that way. Either that or they are waiting until after the draft to make those kind of signings.
It really all depends on if they think Rishaw Johnson is ready to start at RG. If that is the case then the 4th would be a backup anyway. If not they will have to sign a G in FA or draft one higher than we would all like.
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Which means they're probably going to look for the highest floor they can find.

Again.
God, I hope not. It's time to swing away.
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