Justin Houston’s last year in KC?

[kcbubb]

I’m not an expert on these contracts, but could it be Houston’s last year here? His production has been awful and with two games this year with big leads and lots of down the field pass attempts by opposing QBs, Houston has no sacks. I think he has less sacks in the last 50 or so games than he did in the year before his contract, the big year with 22 sacks. His cap hit will decline dramatically next year. He might be gone. As a general rule, I think the chiefs should limit these large 2nd contracts. The motivation just isn’t there. The raiders were right to trade Khalil Mack. Here’s the info on Houston’s contract. Let’s hope Houston turns it around. We need him for a playoff run but if he doesn’t increase production, I think he’s gone.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...-houston-7789/

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

KC is going to have some real cap space to work with next offseason AND they will have a good stockpile of picks to work with.

If done right, it could be the kind of offseason that primes them for a Super Bowl run.

We need to pay Chris Jones, Tyreek Hill and maybe Kendall Fuller this spring, so a lot of money is going to be spent.

It all comes down to draft picks. Next years draft is going to be very important.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Houston had the biggest defensive play in the game and it was stolen by the Refs.

He had another sure sack that was negated by a blatant hold and Ben throwing past the line of scrimmage.

2 sacks taken away. But the Narrative is he didn't do anything because there are no sacks on record. Do people even watch the games?

Oh yeah, he was held like crazy every play to protect Ben.

Jimmy Grapes will feel the full force of Houston this week and these kinds of threads will disappear.

Exactly. Houston balled, and was a big reason KC held the Steelers to 3/11 on 3rd down.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by RunKC

We need to pay Chris Jones, Tyreek Hill and maybe Kendall Fuller this spring, so a lot of money is going to be spent.

It all comes down to draft picks. Next years draft is going to be very important.

Every draft is important. With the way NFL rosters turnover, you basically NEED to acquire at least 1 new young starter. Preferably 2 a year. I just mean guys out of college, not free agents. Otherwise your roster falls behind.

KC has way too many DB's that have not panned out. Who's scouting these guys?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by RunKC

We need to pay Chris Jones, Tyreek Hill and maybe Kendall Fuller this spring, so a lot of money is going to be spent.

It all comes down to draft picks. Next years draft is going to be very important.

I'm glad we didn't pay too much this offseason for defensive pieces. Who we get should depend on the scheme we see ourselves running 4-5 years from now. Not only do I question Sutton there, age wise... How much longer can the guy go? It's like grocery shopping for Italian food when your future chef cooks Greek.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by RunKC

We need to pay Chris Jones, Tyreek Hill and maybe Kendall Fuller this spring, so a lot of money is going to be spent.

It all comes down to draft picks. Next years draft is going to be very important.

I’d lock up Tyreek and figure the rest out based on what happens the rest of this year

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Houston had the biggest defensive play in the game and it was stolen by the Refs.

He had another sure sack that was negated by a blatant hold and Ben throwing past the line of scrimmage.

2 sacks taken away. But the Narrative is he didn't do anything because there are no sacks on record. Do people even watch the games?

Oh yeah, he was held like crazy every play to protect Ben.

Jimmy Grapes will feel the full force of Houston this week and these kinds of threads will disappear.

Everybody was held. Yet Chris Jones got penetration and even Allen Bailey got a sack. Jones even had to face doubles and still managed to play better than Houston.

The guy is eating up a HUGE chunk of cap. The excuses need to stop and the performance needs to start.

Or he needs to go away.

[Mecca]

Justin Houston is basically now the complimentary guy, the guy who can grab some sacks defend the run well drop into coverage. He has value the problem is he is paid like he is the stud...

Will he take a paycut to stick around, honestly probably not.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Justin Houston is basically now the complimentary guy, the guy who can grab some sacks defend the run well drop into coverage. He has value the problem is he is paid like he is the stud...

Will he take a paycut to stick around, honestly probably not.

If he wants a Super Bowl he will.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

If he wants a Super Bowl he will.

Yea but most guys won't do it with the team that paid them. They'll take the paycut to go somewhere else or they'll try to get as much as they can no matter what it is.

[ModSocks]

The holding excuses are weak.

You think Von Miller and Chandler Jones don't get held or something?

[Reerun_KC]

Paycut then yes. No paycut he can kick rocks.

[bricks]

How about they let go of both of them? And draft some passrushers instead? Could it get any worse ?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by bricks

How about they let go of both of them? And draft some passrushers instead? Could it get any worse ?

Good luck this team needs corners also. You aren't getting 2 OLBs and 2 CB's out of the same draft that can all play.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Yes it is early and he may turn it around. But so far the best players on defense have been Ford, Jones, and Hitchens. Without looking at their contracts I can say they probably make a similar amount or less combined than what Houston is making.

Houston just doesn't pass the eye test anymore. He gets stood up by average tackles and doesn't make plays. He should be singlehandedly wrecking offenses at his current pay, but he doesn't.

His money needs to be used on keeping Hill, Jones, Fuller, etc. If we're going to take advantage of Mahomes' contract before he breaks the bank we can't afford to be paying so much for such little production.

Man, do some research before your hot takes.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Houston had the biggest defensive play in the game and it was stolen by the Refs.

He had another sure sack that was negated by a blatant hold and Ben throwing past the line of scrimmage.

2 sacks taken away. But the Narrative is he didn't do anything because there are no sacks on record. Do people even watch the games?

Oh yeah, he was held like crazy every play to protect Ben.

Jimmy Grapes will feel the full force of Houston this week and these kinds of threads will disappear.

Okchiefs would rather rely on his eye test, not actually looking at contracts, and assume everyone who says “restructure” means “pay cut,” even though “restructure” is different and is wildly more likely.