Chiefs Justin Houston’s last year in KC? - Page 11

kcbubb · 09-21-2018, 08:41 AM

I’m not an expert on these contracts, but could it be Houston’s last year here? His production has been awful and with two games this year with big leads and lots of down the field pass attempts by opposing QBs, Houston has no sacks. I think he has less sacks in the last 50 or so games than he did in the year before his contract, the big year with 22 sacks. His cap hit will decline dramatically next year. He might be gone. As a general rule, I think the chiefs should limit these large 2nd contracts. The motivation just isn’t there. The raiders were right to trade Khalil Mack. Here’s the info on Houston’s contract. Let’s hope Houston turns it around. We need him for a playoff run but if he doesn’t increase production, I think he’s gone.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...-houston-7789/

**notorious** · 09-22-2018, 05:49 AM

I hate that he hasn’t been on the field, and he is grossly overpaid because of it.

If he plays championship level football this year it will erase my negative thoughts towards his recent past “production”.

Tagging Ford is insanity.

COchief · 09-22-2018, 08:51 AM

He generally seems to play slow and looks ten years older on the field, something about that injury or maybe his motivation has fallen off. He looks like DJ 2 years ago, just doesn't have the speed or fire anymore. I will say he is fantastic at setting the edge on his side and containing and occasionally blowing up sweeps/screens/off tackle runs which is an underrated skill that doesn't always hit the stat sheets. Buttons use of him is also in question, but that is a whole other can of worms.

My general feeling on mega second contracts the last few years is just trade them or let them walk and take the 3rd. I'll take two young, healthy, hungry and relatively cheap Dee Fords/Hitchens/Raglands/Kpasses over a $20 million LB gamble any day. Same for any future Berry types, give me the Abdullah/Parker (2015ish)/3-5th round draft pick over our other $20mm gamble who took the team for every single red cent his agent could get. If one is that valuable just franchise them year to year. Essentially the modern NFL RB approach, get that cheap first contract and then make the smart business decision.

I wasn't screaming from the podium when the numbers came out on both deals, but I can say my gut feeling was they were both too much with no options for the team regarding cut/trade. ROI between 50/29 has been crap the last 3-4 years, two salaries combined are probably north of $100 million+ and in return we got one good season out of 29 and the rest are hurt/gimpy/average years between the two. Locker room/team/rah-rah stuff aside, both of those deals are a huge fail at this point.

Reerun_KC · 09-22-2018, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

man Chiefs fans love hanging onto to their fan favorites of yesteryear a year or two late.

Happens when grown men wear jerseys of other grown men.

bigjosh · 09-22-2018, 09:06 AM

It seems a lot more people are coming around finally. Justin Houston has been ineffective for years now.

Reerun_KC · 09-22-2018, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh

It seems a lot more people are coming around finally. Justin Houston has been ineffective for years now.

You do realize that someone bought his jersey right?

saphojunkie · 09-23-2018, 02:03 PM

God all you morons can suck my ****ing dick. That’s Houston’s second strip sack of the season and maybe his fourth sack total without penalties away from the play.

**Rausch** · 09-23-2018, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

God all you morons can suck my ****ing dick. That’s Houston’s second strip sack of the season and maybe his fourth sack total without penalties away from the play.

He is by far the best player on this defense but it doesn't show up on PFF or the stat sheet so it doesn't matter.

As soon as the reigns are loosed he's a ****ing monster IMMEDIATELY.

HE'S PLAING IN THE DEFENSE.

rabblerouser · 09-23-2018, 02:07 PM

Send Houston and 3rd to Seattle for Earl Thomas...

**Rausch** · 09-23-2018, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Send Houston and 3rd to Seattle for Earl Thomas...

Kindly go **** yourself...

rabblerouser · 09-23-2018, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Kindly go **** yourself...

Is there any other way to do it?

Fish · 09-23-2018, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

God all you morons can suck my ****ing dick. That’s Houston’s second strip sack of the season and maybe his fourth sack total without penalties away from the play.

This.

ThaVirus · 09-23-2018, 02:22 PM

He played well today. He should have had three sacks, if not for letting Jimmy G out of his grasp a couple times.

At any rate, the one he notched was in a huge, huge moment. If we'd have recovered the fumble you guys would be sucking his dick.

**Rausch** · 09-23-2018, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Is there any other way to do it?

If you aren't a fan of Houston I'd suggest violently, but, I guess we should all get a vote in that...

...

TambaBerry · 09-23-2018, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

another stupid opinion on Houston lol

this again

Eleazar · 09-23-2018, 02:25 PM

Well he’s made one big play on the season now. That’s a step in the right direction...

09-21-2018, 08:41 AM
kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $6116719	Justin Houston’s last year in KC? I’m not an expert on these contracts, but could it be Houston’s last year here? His production has been awful and with two games this year with big leads and lots of down the field pass attempts by opposing QBs, Houston has no sacks. I think he has less sacks in the last 50 or so games than he did in the year before his contract, the big year with 22 sacks. His cap hit will decline dramatically next year. He might be gone. As a general rule, I think the chiefs should limit these large 2nd contracts. The motivation just isn’t there. The raiders were right to trade Khalil Mack. Here’s the info on Houston’s contract. Let’s hope Houston turns it around. We need him for a playoff run but if he doesn’t increase production, I think he’s gone. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...-houston-7789/
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09-22-2018, 05:49 AM	#151
notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $2955884	I hate that he hasn’t been on the field, and he is grossly overpaid because of it. If he plays championship level football this year it will erase my negative thoughts towards his recent past “production”. Tagging Ford is insanity.
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09-22-2018, 08:51 AM	#152
COchief Blame it on the Henne Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Donk-town Casino cash: $6893231	He generally seems to play slow and looks ten years older on the field, something about that injury or maybe his motivation has fallen off. He looks like DJ 2 years ago, just doesn't have the speed or fire anymore. I will say he is fantastic at setting the edge on his side and containing and occasionally blowing up sweeps/screens/off tackle runs which is an underrated skill that doesn't always hit the stat sheets. Buttons use of him is also in question, but that is a whole other can of worms. My general feeling on mega second contracts the last few years is just trade them or let them walk and take the 3rd. I'll take two young, healthy, hungry and relatively cheap Dee Fords/Hitchens/Raglands/Kpasses over a $20 million LB gamble any day. Same for any future Berry types, give me the Abdullah/Parker (2015ish)/3-5th round draft pick over our other $20mm gamble who took the team for every single red cent his agent could get. If one is that valuable just franchise them year to year. Essentially the modern NFL RB approach, get that cheap first contract and then make the smart business decision. I wasn't screaming from the podium when the numbers came out on both deals, but I can say my gut feeling was they were both too much with no options for the team regarding cut/trade. ROI between 50/29 has been crap the last 3-4 years, two salaries combined are probably north of $100 million+ and in return we got one good season out of 29 and the rest are hurt/gimpy/average years between the two. Locker room/team/rah-rah stuff aside, both of those deals are a huge fail at this point.
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bigjosh Mahomosapien Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: the great white north Casino cash: $1714902	It seems a lot more people are coming around finally. Justin Houston has been ineffective for years now.
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09-23-2018, 02:03 PM	#156
saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $4776250	God all you morons can suck my ****ing dick. That’s Houston’s second strip sack of the season and maybe his fourth sack total without penalties away from the play.
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09-23-2018, 02:22 PM	#162
ThaVirus Settle this once and forever Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $2112369	He played well today. He should have had three sacks, if not for letting Jimmy G out of his grasp a couple times. At any rate, the one he notched was in a huge, huge moment. If we'd have recovered the fumble you guys would be sucking his dick.
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09-23-2018, 02:25 PM	#165
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Well he’s made one big play on the season now. That’s a step in the right direction...
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