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Old 08-08-2018, 02:32 PM  
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Jihadi school shooting compound found in the desert

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-mex...ay-2018-08-08/

No thread on this? Crazy shit. Apparently one of the guys is the son of someone connected to the 1993 WTC bombing.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:13 AM   #46
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This is a riff on the long-running sentiment of many folks here who believe illegals seeking asylum here (or elsewhere) should rebuild their own countries and make their own freedom. As if fleeing the dangers of gang violence, trafficking, and certain death were a moniker of apathy for self-reliance.

Give me a ****ing break.
Yeah, I mean... the people that make such an argument may apply to are being reductive. For those that do not you're just constructing a strawman.

The problem is that without any form of legal checks on immigration the gang violence, trafficking, and death, is also being imported. This is demonstrably happening, so let's not waste our time acting as though it is not. That's ONE reason people are against illegal immigration. Another is the demonstrable effect it has in suppressing wages.

I don't lack sympathy, I just have no interest in taking responsibility. There are communities in america where gang violence, trafficking, and a very high likelihood of being murdered exist. Let's address them before importing the world's problems and thus increasing our own. Since, you know, they're tax paying americans.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:14 AM   #47
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How about we send them all over to your house?
I don't think they'd all fit in my mom's basement, but I'll see if it's cool with her
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:15 AM   #48
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"...fleeing the dangers of gang violence, trafficking, and certain death..."

Well, yeah.
So you don't actually know the definition?
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:16 AM   #49
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Yeah, I mean... the people that make such an argument may apply to are being reductive. For those that do not you're just constructing a strawman.

The problem is that without any form of legal checks on immigration the gang violence, trafficking, and death, is also being imported. This is demonstrably happening, so let's not waste our time acting as though it is not. That's ONE reason people are against illegal immigration. Another is the demonstrable effect it has in suppressing wages.

I don't lack sympathy, I just have no interest in taking responsibility. There are communities in america where gang violence, trafficking, and a very high likelihood of being murdered exist. Let's address them before importing the world's problems. Since, you know, they're tax paying americans.
This is unequivocally false.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:19 AM   #50
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Let me help you guys out, the US Government definition of Asylum.

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/r...-asylum/asylum

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Every year people come to the United States seeking protection because they have suffered persecution or fear that they will suffer persecution due to:

Race
Religion
Nationality
Membership in a particular social group
Political opinion


If you are eligible for asylum you may be permitted to remain in the United States. To apply for Asylum, file a Form I-589, Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal, within one year of your arrival to the United States. There is no fee to apply for asylum.

You may include your spouse and children who are in the United States on your application at the time you file or at any time until a final decision is made on your case. To include your child on your application, the child must be under 21 and unmarried. For more information see our Form I-589, Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal page.
I don't see gang violence , trafficking, or certain death (whatever the hell that means) listed.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:19 AM   #51
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I don't think they'd all fit in my mom's basement, but I'll see if it's cool with her
Yeah, you do that.

In the meantime, none of this third world shit is my problem or my responsibility.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:19 AM   #52
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So you don't actually know the definition?
What am I missing? They're fleeing persecution due to a number of factors that fit into the description of asylum-seeking.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:20 AM   #53
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Let me help you guys out, the US Government definition of Asylum.

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/r...-asylum/asylum



I don't see gang violence listed.
Membership in a particular social group

Yeah, you just posted that. Come on dude.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:20 AM   #54
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Yeah, you do that.

In the meantime, none of this third world shit is my problem or my responsibility.
Right on bro. You do you.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:20 AM   #55
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This is unequivocally false.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:21 AM   #56
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This is unequivocally false.
No, it isn't.

The idea that you could say open unguarded borders isn't helping facilitate human trafficking is among the dumbest things I"ve ever seen posted here or on any other forum.
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Yeah, you just posted that. Come on dude.
WTF do you think that means?
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Right on bro. You do you.
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And not to break up the immigration debate going on, but let's make sure to not lose sight of the fact Linda Sarsour - feminist, progressive hero, hardline Muslim and Sharia supporter - is squarely in the sights of this story. That woman is as anti-American as it gets; SHOCKING to see she would be wrapped up in a jihadi training camp ties to child trafficking right here in the USA. Not even.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:22 AM   #60
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WTF do you think that means?
You know most of these people fleeing gang violence are fleeing because they wouldn't partake in said gang violence, yes?
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