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Old 08-07-2018, 11:41 AM  
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Crackdown: Twitter Suspend Libertarian Accounts Including Ron Paul Institute Director

The Crackdown Continues: Twitter Suspends Libertarian Accounts, Including Ron Paul Institute Director

One day after what appeared to be a coordinated attack by media giants Facebook, Apple, Spotify and Google on Alex Jones, whose various social media accounts were banned or suspended in a matter of hours, the crackdown against alternative media figures continued as several Libertarian figures, including the Ron Paul Institute director, found their Twitter accounts suspended.




On Monday, Twitter suspended the editorial director of antiwar.com Scott Horton, former State Department employee Peter Van Buren, and Dan McAdams, the executive director of the Ron Paul Institute.




Horton was reportedly disciplined for the use of "improper language" against journalist Jonathan M. Katz, he said in a brief statement, while McAdams was suspended for retweeting him, he said. Past tweets in both accounts were available to the public at the time of the writing, unlike the account of Van Buren, which was fully suspended.

According to TargetLiberty, Horton and McAdams fell victim of Twitter’s suspension algorithm after objecting to Katz’s quarrel with Van Buren over an earlier interview.








The suspensions come days after Twitter suspended black conservative Candace Owen from Twitter for highlighting the algorithmic hypocrisy of Twitter by replacing the word “white” with “Jewish” in a series of tweets modeled on those by New York Times editor Sarah Jeong.

just after controversial conservative Alex Jones, and his podcast InfoWars, were kicked out from most social media platforms, prompting conservative to accuse the social networks of collusion in a collective crackdown on non-mainstream voices. The Silicon Valley giants were criticized by the US political establishment for failing to prevent alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. Meanwhile, critics now say the pressured media giants are engaging in political censorship, using their market dominance and lack of legislated neutrality requirements to target descent voices ahead of the midterm elections.

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In a scathing op-ed on Tuesday, Nigel Farage wrote that "while many on the libertarian right and within the conservative movement have their issues with Alex Jones and InfoWars, this week’s announcement by YouTube, Facebook, Apple, and Spotify represents a concerted effort of proscription and censorship that could just as soon see any of us confined to the dustbin of social media history."
These platforms that claim to be “open” and in favor of “free speech” are now routinely targeting -- whether by human intervention or not -- the views and expressions of conservatives and anti-globalists.

This is why they no longer even fit the bill of “platforms.” They are publishers in the same way we regard news outlets as publishers. They may use more machine learning and automation, but their systems clearly take editorial positions. We need to hold them to account in the same way we do any other publisher.
Farage then accused social media giants of being corporatist:
That they cannot profess to be neutral, open platforms while being illiberal, dictatorial, and hiding behind the visage of a private corporation (which are more often than not in bed with governments around the world at the very highest levels).

This isn’t capitalism. It’s corporatism.
He concludes that the real interference in "US democracy" comes not from Russia, but from some of its most powerful corporations which now yield more power in some cases than the government itself: "This isn’t “liberal democracy” as they keep pretending. It’s autocracy."

"...for those that don’t take issue with the latest censorship of right-wingers by big social media -- unless we take a stand now, who knows where it could end."


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Old 08-08-2018, 04:47 PM   #61
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I doubt they have the balls to go after a Libertarian like Bill Maher, though he seems to be less Libertarian nowdays and more left.
He isn't really a libertarian he is just a liberal who sometimes points out that the liberals don't really live up to their rhetoric.

Just like Glenn Greenwald is a progressive liberal that points out when liberals don't actually walk the walk.
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Old 08-08-2018, 05:48 PM   #62
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I doubt they have the balls to go after a Libertarian like Bill Maher, though he seems to be less Libertarian nowdays and more left.
Bill Maher was never libertarian. He just doesn't make any money calling himself a Democrat.

What Bill Maher is is a hedonist. There's a difference between a libertine and a libertarian. Bill Maher wants to exist in a system where he can be rich and condescending, while doing whatever in the **** he wants to whoever he wants.
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Old 08-09-2018, 03:54 AM   #63
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IIRC she had none and you were concerned about it enough to post it publicly online for people to comment about it.
BTW "plowing" is also very unromantic.
You are wrong, which I suspect is a familiar feeling for you. Or should be, if you could ever admit it.

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Old 08-09-2018, 04:45 AM   #64
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You are wrong, which I suspect is a familiar feeling for you. Or should be, if you could ever admit it.

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I'm not familiar with the sensation. May I ask what part of "IIRC" I used as a qualifier to my statement, you did not understand?

That's still a piss poor record and some even noted. You're feeling defensive about it.
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Old 08-09-2018, 04:55 AM   #65
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I'm not familiar with the sensation. May I ask what part of "IIRC" I used as a qualifier to my statement, you did not understand?

That's still a piss poor record and some even noted. You're feeling defensive about it.
Lol, no I’m not. If I were defensive, why would I link it? Why, for that matter, would I start the thread at all?

Be less wrong. It’s unflattering.
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:18 AM   #66
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Lol, no I’m not. If I were defensive, why would I link it? Why, for that matter, would I start the thread at all?
I'm talking about in here, since you're obsessing over it. You don't use context, do you?

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Again, may I as what part of "IIRC" you did not understand?

Use less strawman arguments by reading better—it's unflattering being dumb. You're not really communicating. "IIRC" means, it's a conditional statement as it's based on recall only.
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I'm talking about in here, since you're obsessing over it. You don't use context, do you?
Lol, I’m not obsessing over it. You brought it up, were wrong about it, so I linked it to show that you were wrong.
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Again, may I as what part of "IIRC" you did not understand?

Use less strawman arguments by reading better—it's unflattering being dumb. You're not really communicating. "IIRC" means, it's a conditional statement as it's based on recall only.
It’s not a strawman argument to show that you are wrong.
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Thanks. I stand corrected.
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Where?

Are you going to be a pesky interventionist again and escalate matters?
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:35 AM   #70
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Lol, I’m not obsessing over it. You brought it up, were wrong about it, so I linked it to show that you were wrong.


It’s not a strawman argument to show that you are wrong.

May I ask, again, what you did not understand when I used "IIRC"?

I also said, when you corrected the amount of failure to a different percent, that it still was a poor record. What part about that did you not understand? You can't seem to get, that's an acceptance of that correction.

You are obsessing because you keep coming back about it, despite that.

Again, there's a communication problem. You don't comprehend well.
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Where?

Are you going to be a pesky interventionist again and escalate matters?
Nah, I just don’t understand your prickly response to Hoopsdoc when he corrected your mistaken recall.
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Nah, I just don’t understand your prickly response to Hoopsdoc when he corrected your mistaken recall.
Apparently, you missed the acceptance of that correction and also do not understand what "IIRC" means.Particularly the part that stands for "if".

I use that, which I got from you, when I am not sure about exactness but remember the gist of something because I wasn't going to bother to search for the thread.
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Apparently, you missed the acceptance of that correction and also do not understand what "IIRC" means.Particularly the part that stands for "if".

I use that, which I got from you, when I am not sure about exactness but remember the gist of something because I wasn't going to bother to search for the thread.
It’s good that you originally qualified your statement with “IIRC”, but that doesn’t mean corrections are unwarranted.

You tried to attack him (no big deal, it’s what we do here). You used a false allegation (albeit with an IIRC disclaimer). And when corrected, you were ungracious, IMO.
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Apparently, you missed the acceptance of that correction and also do not understand what "IIRC" means.Particularly the part that stands for "if".

I use that, which I got from you, when I am not sure about exactness but remember the gist of something because I wasn't going to bother to search for the thread.
As Pat has graciously pointed, using IIRC doesn’t preclude you from being wrong.
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It’s good that you originally qualified your statement with “IIRC”, but that doesn’t mean corrections are unwarranted.
Who claimed it was?

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You tried to attack him (no big deal, it’s what we do here).
Yeah, well what you've missed with your assumption, is he needles me all the time, just more in a passive aggressive manner and from some high moral ground.

Just because you didn't see it here ( IIRC as I have to go re-read earlier) doesn't mean he hasn't. That's why he gets it from me.

So don't assume. Another good reason to not be a pesky interventionist.

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You used a false allegation (albeit with an IIRC disclaimer). And when corrected, you were ungracious, IMO.
Now you're being absolute, when it was only partially false which was the amount of failure; was admittedly from recall which he verified and said conditionally. The gist of it was still correct. I don't have a photographic memory, but FACT is he still had a high failure rate . Furthermore he choose to post a thread about publicly.

It's kinda like your claim that the Reagan quote was a "fabrication" as in completely false, when most of it was correct and simply had ellipses removed on parts not really relevant.
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