Home Mail Chat Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-02-2018, 05:51 PM  
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $39727
VARSITY
2018 STL Cardinals Thread

Opening day lineup

Fowler RF
Pham CF
Carpenter 3B
Ozuna LF
Martinez 1B
Molina C
Dejong SS
Wong 2B
Pitcher

Edit:
Matheny fired 07/14/2018




Opening Day Roster
Spoiler!

Last edited by BigRedChief; 07-17-2018 at 02:21 PM..
Posts: 61,296
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2018, 01:30 PM   #16
Marcellus Marcellus is offline
Save Chief's Planet
 
Marcellus's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: In denial.
Casino cash: $32762
Royals already beat every other offer on Hosmer.
Posts: 38,077
Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2018, 01:32 PM   #17
raybec 4 raybec 4 is offline
MVP
 
raybec 4's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: East Jabip
Casino cash: $13907
Quote:
Originally Posted by VAChief View Post
Hosmer is maybe a slight offensive upgrade (that is debatable) to our lineup over just keeping Gyorko at 3B. It is a defensive downgrade to move Carpenter back there even with the "perceived" defensive attributes of Hosmer. The metrics on him defensively do not support the accolades he has received (and it isn't even close). All this and he is likely going to cost us 200 million? No thanks.

Donaldson would be an upgrade and I would be excited to have his bat and glove here (depending on the cost).
I think the problem would be the offensive production you'd gain wouldn't come from the right position. Gyorko is more than just serviceable and so is Carp. They need another corner outfielder and some pitching help.
Posts: 7,222
raybec 4 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.raybec 4 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.raybec 4 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.raybec 4 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.raybec 4 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.raybec 4 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.raybec 4 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.raybec 4 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.raybec 4 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.raybec 4 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.raybec 4 is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2018, 02:08 PM   #18
VAChief VAChief is offline
Comfortably Numb
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Virginia
Casino cash: $5942
Quote:
Originally Posted by raybec 4 View Post
I think the problem would be the offensive production you'd gain wouldn't come from the right position. Gyorko is more than just serviceable and so is Carp. They need another corner outfielder and some pitching help.
I agree that we can use another bat, I just don't want them to panic and lock into someone that long term that is an iffy upgrade.

Hopefully he will just stay with the Royals.
Posts: 3,864
VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.VAChief would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2018, 02:15 PM   #19
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Still Dicking Bimbos At Home
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $19199
Quote:
Originally Posted by VAChief View Post
Hosmer is maybe a slight offensive upgrade (that is debatable) to our lineup over just keeping Gyorko at 3B. It is a defensive downgrade to move Carpenter back there even with the "perceived" defensive attributes of Hosmer. The metrics on him defensively do not support the accolades he has received (and it isn't even close). All this and he is likely going to cost us 200 million? No thanks.

Donaldson would be an upgrade and I would be excited to have his bat and glove here (depending on the cost).
Putting Hosmer in at 1b so you can bench Gyorko and slide Carpenter over to 3b makes the team $160 million or so more expensive and genuinely worse over the next 2-3 years.

You've savagely mauled your 3b defense in that transition for maybe (maybe) a slight offensive upgrade at 1b. The only major improvement you'd get is that you're replacing a RH in Gyorko with a LH in Hosmer in a lineup that could probably use another LH hitter.

If that's your plan, go get Moustakas on the shorter-term, lower AAV deal. He'd be a better fit, IMO.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."
Posts: 31,021
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2018, 02:17 PM   #20
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Still Dicking Bimbos At Home
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $19199
Quote:
Originally Posted by raybec 4 View Post
I think the problem would be the offensive production you'd gain wouldn't come from the right position. Gyorko is more than just serviceable and so is Carp. They need another corner outfielder and some pitching help.
They need a SS.

They're fine in the OF; Fowler's a genuinely good offensive player and if he's playing LF, he's fine on defense. Sadly we're likely putting his noodle arm in RF where he'll be less fine, but whatever - if he catches the ball and stops pulling up on everything like he did in CF, he'll play over there. Arm strength is the least valuable of the 5 tools and if he plays with good instincts and accuracy, he can make up for the arm deficiency.

They need a superstar and they need him to be a SS.

They need Manny !@#$ing Machado.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."
Posts: 31,021
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2018, 03:41 PM   #21
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $39727
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
They need a SS.

They need a superstar and they need him to be a SS.

They need Manny !@#$ing Machado.
what team wouldn't be better with Machado at SS?
__________________
“Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
/Oscar Wilde
Posts: 61,296
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2018, 03:47 PM   #22
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Still Dicking Bimbos At Home
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $19199
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
what team wouldn't be better with Machado at SS?
Houston? LA? Maybe Cleveland.

But what teams can claim that Machado makes them go from potentially wild-card round roadkill to genuine contenders?

Not so many. There aren't many teams that have the combination of need, prospect depth and financial wherewithal while also being in the right spot in the competition cycle to say 'this is a no-brainer'. Some teams can contend easily without him and once you're at that level, I think it's silly to take big risks because of the crapshoot nature of post-season baseball.

Other teams are simply going from varying degrees of irrelevant.

But I can't think of any other team that can move themselves up a 'competitive tier' while also having the ability to acquire and retain Machado (presuming he hasn't already made up his mind to go to NYY).
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."
Posts: 31,021
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2018, 08:09 PM   #23
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $39727
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
Houston? LA? Maybe Cleveland.

But what teams can claim that Machado makes them go from potentially wild-card round roadkill to genuine contenders?

Not so many. There aren't many teams that have the combination of need, prospect depth and financial wherewithal while also being in the right spot in the competition cycle to say 'this is a no-brainer'. Some teams can contend easily without him and once you're at that level, I think it's silly to take big risks because of the crapshoot nature of post-season baseball.

Other teams are simply going from varying degrees of irrelevant.

But I can't think of any other team that can move themselves up a 'competitive tier' while also having the ability to acquire and retain Machado (presuming he hasn't already made up his mind to go to NYY).
I don't think we can resign him for non-monetary reasons.

I like him ahelluva lot. Way more than Harper that's for sure.

Why give up everything of high value in our farm system for a 1 year run? We won 2 Championships in the last 11 years. We are not that desperate.
__________________
“Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
/Oscar Wilde
Posts: 61,296
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2018, 08:25 PM   #24
Miles Miles is offline
MVP
 
Miles's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Casino cash: $12500
The feels like the slowest free agency I can recall.
Posts: 13,797
Miles would the whole thing.Miles would the whole thing.Miles would the whole thing.Miles would the whole thing.Miles would the whole thing.Miles would the whole thing.Miles would the whole thing.Miles would the whole thing.Miles would the whole thing.Miles would the whole thing.Miles would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2018, 09:47 AM   #25
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $39727
VARSITY
Report: Arrieta has offers from 6 teams including Cubs, Brewers

by Simon Sharkey-Gotlieb 17h ago

Jim Young / USA TODAY Sports

Jake Arrieta's market is apparently heating up.
A source close to Arrieta told Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times that the free-agent right-hander is sitting on offers from six different teams that are said to be "overpay(s)" in terms of annual values.


The Chicago Cubs - the team with which Arrieta became a star over the past four-plus seasons - along with two other NL Central clubs, the St. Louis Cardinals and Milwaukee Brewers, have all reportedly offered deals to the 31-year-old former Cy Young winner, according to Wittenmyer.
Chicago reportedly offered Arrieta a four-year deal worth $110 million earlier this month. It's unknown what offers have been made by either Milwaukee or St. Louis, or the identities of the other three teams.
__________________
“Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
/Oscar Wilde
Posts: 61,296
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2018, 09:52 AM   #26
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $39727
VARSITY
MLB free agents may not be full-on panicking yet, but there’s probably some slight concern among them given the large number of individuals still on the market.


“They’re getting nervous. Particularly the players,” USA Today’s Bob Nightengale recently told The Bernie Miklasz Show. “The only think keeping them sane right now is that they’re in the similar boat with 135 other guys…These guys have young families, wives, everything else. They want to know what’s going on. Are you packing for Florida? Are you packing for Arizona for spring?


“It’s starting to get late…I guarantee that if someone gets just a decent offer they’re going to grab it.”


One free agent Nightengale thinks could land in Jupiter is former Royals third baseman Mike Moustakas, who’s coming off a 38-homer year to go with an .835 OPS.

“I think the Cardinals are sitting back and hoping that Moustakas falls into their lap,” He said. “I think that’d be a great move. Then, of course, grab a starter.”
__________________
“Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.”
/Oscar Wilde
Posts: 61,296
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2018, 10:47 AM   #27
BDj23 BDj23 is offline
There is always next year
 
BDj23's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Pit of misery
Casino cash: $11700
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2...reach-23m-deal

Donaldson off the table
Posts: 4,629
BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2018, 11:18 AM   #28
Marcellus Marcellus is offline
Save Chief's Planet
 
Marcellus's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: In denial.
Casino cash: $32762
Quote:
Originally Posted by BDj23 View Post
Why would that prevent him from being traded?
Posts: 38,077
Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2018, 03:51 PM   #29
BDj23 BDj23 is offline
There is always next year
 
BDj23's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Pit of misery
Casino cash: $11700
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus View Post
Why would that prevent him from being traded?
It doesn't, but don't they blue jays believe they can still contend? I just likely think they will work out an extension for him, unless they are awful this season.
Posts: 4,629
BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.BDj23 wants to die in a aids tree fire.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2018, 03:56 PM   #30
jd1020 jd1020 is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Casino cash: $22745
Quote:
Originally Posted by BDj23 View Post
It doesn't, but don't they blue jays believe they can still contend? I just likely think they will work out an extension for him, unless they are awful this season.
I would imagine they have a good idea on whether or not they can extend him. Their options were go to arbitration, sign him to a 1 year deal, or let him become a FA early.
Posts: 19,718
jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.jd1020 is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:34 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.