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Old 06-24-2017, 03:56 PM  
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Michael Brown's family: gets $1.5M settlement

I almost spit out my coffee this A.M. when I saw that on the CNN scroll. Dude attacks a cop sitting in his car - proven by DNA and ballistics evidence - gets killed by the cop (who was exonerated).....the DOJ says his civil rights were NOT violated.....and still gets a settlement!?!?!?!?

City of Ferguson pays out big money to settle Michael Brown wrongful death suit
Sara Gonzales Jun 23, 2017 1:54 pm


City of Ferguson pays out big money to settle Michael Brown wrongful death suit
The city of Ferguson paid $1.5 million in the settlement of the wrongful death lawsuit filed by the family of Michael Brown. Brown, 18, was shot by police in August 2014, which sparked to protests in the city.
The city attorney for Ferguson, Missouri, has disclosed the settlement amount in the wrongful death lawsuit filed by the family of Michael Brown.

Attorney Apollo Carey told The Associated Press Friday that the city’s insurance company paid the family $1.5 million to settle the lawsuit. The settlement was first announced Tuesday, but figures of the settlement had not initially been disclosed.

The 18-year-old Brown, who was black, was fatally shot in August 2014 by white Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson. Though Brown was unarmed, credible witnesses during the grand jury trial said 6-foot-5, 289 pound Brown charged Officer Wilson, who fired 12 shots at Brown, critically wounding him several times.

The Obama Department of Justice also concluded that Brown’s civil rights were not violated by Wilson in a report that cast serious doubts on the “hands up, don’t shoot” narrative.
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Old 06-24-2017, 04:00 PM   #2
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Old 06-24-2017, 04:02 PM   #3
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GloucesterChief will be by shortly to complain it wasn't nearly enough.
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Old 06-24-2017, 04:02 PM   #4
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Rob store, attack cop, try to get his weapon to kill him and get away. If your not successful and he kills you your family can just sue the city.
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Old 06-24-2017, 04:23 PM   #5
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Old 06-24-2017, 04:32 PM   #6
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I wish there was more detail regarding the respective liability of named parties, because while I agree that the plaintiffs were horrid parents and made horrid plaintiffs, and I agree that the deceased contributed to the situation more than sufficient to quash defendant's liability regarding the shooting itself, there is still the issue of post-shooting investigation and custody to deal with.

Although the events leading to Brown's corpse ripening in the sun for hours had reasonable explanations and were largely a confluence of a number of factors beyond the county's control, there still is some negligence liability to be found in Brown sitting there on a public thoroughfare for several hours without action to secure the scene or shield the body from gawking.

It's not a racial thing, or a purposeful thing, but it's still sufficiently negligent to make $1.5M a reasonable settlement, if that part figured in prominently.
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Old 06-24-2017, 04:39 PM   #7
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I wish there was more detail regarding the respective liability of named parties, because while I agree that the plaintiffs were horrid parents and made horrid plaintiffs, and I agree that the deceased contributed to the situation more than sufficient to quash defendant's liability regarding the shooting itself, there is still the issue of post-shooting investigation and custody to deal with.

Although the events leading to Brown's corpse ripening in the sun for hours had reasonable explanations and were largely a confluence of a number of factors beyond the county's control, there still is some negligence liability to be found in Brown sitting there on a public thoroughfare for several hours without action to secure the scene or shield the body from gawking.

It's not a racial thing, or a purposeful thing, but it's still sufficiently negligent to make $1.5M a reasonable settlement, if that part figured in prominently.

The Obama Department of Justice also concluded that Brown’s civil rights were not violated by Wilson in a report
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Old 06-24-2017, 04:40 PM   #8
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Its not that hard to understand once you know what scumbags lawyers are...


Basically it goes something like this:

the cost to defend the lawsuit and the RISK of losing completely outweigh the reward from 'winning' the lawsuit....

Why?

Because our legal system is completely broken....all the brown family has to do is sue and rack up lawyer hours, investigation hours, expert witness hours, paralegal hours etc etc etc...

Then all they have to do is essentially prove that the officer was even partially at fault say 5% fault of the officer 95% fault of the city and they get all of those legal fees and hours paid for by the city.

So for the city to pay millions to fight this, and to 'win' even....and then have to pay only a small amount , say 100G to the Browns....their lawyers would.....STILL GET PAID....and furthermore the city would actually have to pay more to achieve this 'victory' than simply settling for 1.5 million so the lawyers 'only' get like 400k and the browns get a million or something...

Its basically a complicated form of blackmail....and the deep pockets always lose. We need to change this, badly.
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The Obama Department of Justice also concluded that Brown’s civil rights were not violated by Wilson in a report
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted.
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Its not that hard to understand once you know what scumbags lawyers are...


Basically it goes something like this:

the cost to defend the lawsuit and the RISK of losing completely outweigh the reward from 'winning' the lawsuit....

Why?

Because our legal system is completely broken....all the brown family has to do is sue and rack up lawyer hours, investigation hours, expert witness hours, paralegal hours etc etc etc...

Then all they have to do is essentially prove that the officer was even partially at fault say 5% fault of the officer 95% fault of the city and they get all of those legal fees and hours paid for by the city.

So for the city to pay millions to fight this, and to 'win' even....and then have to pay only a small amount , say 100G to the Browns....their lawyers would.....STILL GET PAID....and furthermore the city would actually have to pay more to achieve this 'victory' than simply settling for 1.5 million so the lawyers 'only' get like 400k and the browns get a million or something...

Its basically a complicated form of blackmail....and the deep pockets always lose. We need to change this, badly.
I'm just going to assume that most rational people realize that this is almost entirely inaccurate.
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That has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted.
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I really don't like cases like this being allowed to sue after one case. It's kinda like double jeopardy. Not exactly, but it's in that vein.
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Why not>?
Short answer, because it was a state civil action for negligence, not a federal action for civil rights violations.

Long answer, apply to law school.
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Old 06-24-2017, 04:56 PM   #14
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Short answer, because it was a state civil action for negligence, not a federal action for civil rights violations.

Long answer, apply to law school.
I had long believed Federal findings trump state ones, but I could be mistaken.
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