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Old 03-17-2017, 11:11 AM  
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Are We Looking at the Chiefs QB Situation Incorrectly
First of all, let me say that I hate being the guy bringing this up, BUT I fear that we're all looking at our QBOTF issue incorrectly. Sadly, the question isn't about which QB we should draft, but rather (and I hate me for suggesting this), what veteran QB will be available in the next 2-3 years to replace Alex?

I'm basing this solely on our stinking franchise DNA. If true to form, the odds of DRAFTING a QB that has a decent chance to evolve into being The Guy are virtually zero. So, we're left to figure out what veteran guy will be available as a replacement for Smith.

Yeah, I know this sucks, but the facts of the matter are that the Chiefs simply do not expend high draft picks on QBs......at least not for the past 34 stinking years.

Ergo, the question isn't about drafting Mahomes, Watson, Webb, Trubisky, etc., the question is whether we go after a vet QB like Cousins, Kaepernick, etc. (I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.)

Man, when you look at it from this angle, the prospects of finding a vet QB who could take us to the Promised Land appear staggeringly horrible.

One only hopes that somehow, someway, we are able to shed our heritage and try a "new" approach in addressing our QB position...can you say "Expend a high draft choice for an untried, unproven but oh so exciting QB prospect."

Hope springs eternal......
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:31 PM   #46
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Bray, Murray, Hogan, Daniel, and Foles couldn't win the job. This year's draft points towards another grab round 3 or later. With how secure our roster is next year I'm betting on a round 1 pick.
I don't believe that any of those guys were ever intended to win the job.

Daniel and Foles were just injury-risk guys who knew the offense and wouldn't require much attention.

Bray, Hogan and Murray were just longshots and would have been trade bait if they had shown much.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:33 PM   #47
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:36 PM   #48
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I blame Hunt more than anyone...

But I admit, some of the points you've made in this topic is making me sour a bit more on Reid.
You have to think that Hunt and Reid were on the same page about the QB position when they discussed whether or not Reid would be the Chiefs' new Head Coach.

We will find out in the next 12 months

If the Chiefs do not draft a QB in the top-3 rounds in this draft or the next, it's over, they never intend to.

Alex Smith has 2 years left, it's the next 2 drafts or nothing.

I would not be surprised at all to see Alex Smith extended or us pick up another veteran.

Personally, I think that Reid intends Alex Smith to be the only QB he has while in KC.
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Old 03-17-2017, 05:01 PM   #49
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I just keep thinking of Mahomes photo op with Clark. This is the most likely year drafting that legitimate QBOTF more than ever.
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Old 03-17-2017, 05:03 PM   #50
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I just keep thinking of Mahomes photo op with Clark. This is the most likely year drafting that legitimate QBOTF more than ever.
Really, the only think i've heard is that this year's draft is weak at the QB position.

Next year is supposed to be better
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Old 03-17-2017, 05:06 PM   #51
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Really, the only think i've heard is that this year's draft is weak at the QB position.

Next year is supposed to be better
LOL, Chiefs fans constant mantra " Next year will be a better QB crop"

Still looking to catch that golden winged unicorn
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Old 03-17-2017, 05:21 PM   #52
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LOL, Chiefs fans constant mantra " Next year will be a better QB crop"

Still looking to catch that golden winged unicorn
Lol, the constant mantra of the people who want the Chiefs to draft a QB no matter what.

draft Geno
draft Mark Sanchez
draft Jonny foosball

Doesn't matter whether the QB sucks or not, I just want to draft one!!


This year is considered a weak QB class, Watson and Trubisky being the only 1st round guys, weak ones at that.

Next year is supposed to have a chance at being special.

Ironically, having a really weak QB class this year might end up giving the Chiefs a better chance at grabbing one early. Whether that guy is worth getting is another matter.
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Old 03-17-2017, 05:25 PM   #53
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Lol, the constant mantra of the people who want the Chiefs to draft a QB no matter what.

draft Geno
draft Mark Sanchez
draft Jonny foosball

Doesn't matter whether the QB sucks or not, I just want to draft one!!


This year is considered a weak QB class, Watson and Trubisky being the only 1st round guys, weak ones at that.

Next year is supposed to have a chance at being special.

Ironically, having a really weak QB class this year might end up giving the Chiefs a better chance at grabbing one early. Whether that guy is worth getting is another matter.
Drafting any QB is always a crapshoot. Wasting a 1st rd pick on a lottery ticket is not what good teams do unless it's the ONLY position of need.
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Old 03-17-2017, 05:25 PM   #54
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Lol, the constant mantra of the people who want the Chiefs to draft a QB no matter what.

draft Geno
draft Mark Sanchez
draft Jonny foosball

Doesn't matter whether the QB sucks or not, I just want to draft one!!


This year is considered a weak QB class, Watson and Trubisky being the only 1st round guys, weak ones at that.

Next year is supposed to have a chance at being special.

Ironically, having a really weak QB class this year might end up giving the Chiefs a better chance at grabbing one early. Whether that guy is worth getting is another matter.
Okay let's just say next year's QB is better we won't have the ammunition to get one because every other team with a high pick will be gunning for them. You'very got to look at the present, because you'll chasing something that will be unattainable because the perfect QB is a myth
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Lol, the constant mantra of the people who want the Chiefs to draft a QB no matter what.

draft Geno
draft Mark Sanchez
draft Jonny foosball

Doesn't matter whether the QB sucks or not, I just want to draft one!!


This year is considered a weak QB class, Watson and Trubisky being the only 1st round guys, weak ones at that.

Next year is supposed to have a chance at being special.

Ironically, having a really weak QB class this year might end up giving the Chiefs a better chance at grabbing one early. Whether that guy is worth getting is another matter.
How will having a weak QB class this year help us? We have lots of draft picks in a deep draft. If we don't draft a QB, we'll spend it on a position to grow out our depth in other surrounding positions of importance. We'll be a pretty good team yet again, Alex will continue to throw for >20 TDs and >3500 yards but play efficient and boring successful football. We'll win lots of regular season games and have a low draft pick. We'll be unable to maneuver around and grab the guy we want if EVERYBODY is trying to do the same ****ing thing.

Just look at 2012. A great QB class, right? Where did we draft? We could only have traded up for Ryan Tannehill. The guy who would "fall" to us was Brandon ****ing Weeden.

Yeah yeah yeah Russell Wilson herpa derp. EVERY TEAM had their shot to draft Russell Wilson and passed on him at least once. Even with Dorsey and Reid running the show, the odds are not very good that a Russell Wilson will fall to the 2nd or 3rd round, nor are they good odds that Dorsey and Reid will have the foresight to draft that particular player over another guy who might fail spectacularly in a similar draft position like Brodie Croyle.

If there is a QB who with a year or even two on the bench could amount to something, and Reid likes him, you ****ing GRAB HIM. **** the notion of the class he was drafted in. Grab that mother****er now.
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Exactly why we need to go after Cousins next year. Give him a $200 mill contract with $100 mil guaranteed
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" the question is whether we go after a vet QB like Cousins, Kaepernick, etc. (I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.)"

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Sorry, but where are we going to get the cap space for a veteran QB?

Here's the deal. We draft and develope a QB and strike gold like Seattle, we are set up for an unbelievable run. That's not just the goal, its what we are set up to do.

And while we all bitch about Alex Smith, he's more than servicable and at his current pay we shouldn't bitch. We could easily be like the Bears and stoked about signing Mike Glennon. Alex isn't going to take us to the next level, but he does buy us some time.
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Okay let's just say next year's QB is better we won't have the ammunition to get one because every other team with a high pick will be gunning for them. You'very got to look at the present, because you'll chasing something that will be unattainable because the perfect QB is a myth
Never said anything about perfect

I said we should have traded Foles at the beginning of this year to give us more draft ammo. We could make trades this year for draft picks next year to give us extra ammo. Trade a quality player to a shitty team for their 1st round draft pick with the hopes that it is a really high pick.

The organization needs to decide that it wants a stud QB and then aggressively create a plan to get a QB.

Next year is supposed to be a quality QB year, so go get a high pick early. Don't wait until a week before the draft a suddenly cry about how you can't get one. Don't wait until the price of that 1st round pick is so ****ing high you can't afford it without gutting your entire team.

Or if some team wants to trade back up into the 1st round this year then don't ask for more picks this year, work out a deal to get their 1st round pick next year.

It's called planning ahead.
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Mahomes, year one, would match or exceed Smith's 2016 production.

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