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Old 11-04-2013, 05:32 PM  
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****Official 2014 STL Cardinals thread ****

2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014?
  • This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.
  • Reached three World Series in the last decade, and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
  • Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.
  • Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
  • 60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.
  • Only one of the last 14 seasons has been a losing one.

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Old 07-31-2014, 10:39 AM   #2296
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For whom? We better not have given up the farm for this. Isn't he just a rental?




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Old 07-31-2014, 10:40 AM   #2297
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Just looked into his contract. He is making $15.25 million this year; club option for 2015 of only $500,000.

Hope we didn't give up OT for him. Maybe Grichuk? Jay?
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Old 07-31-2014, 10:47 AM   #2298
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Old 07-31-2014, 10:48 AM   #2299
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Old 07-31-2014, 10:51 AM   #2300
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:01 AM   #2301
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LOVE THIS TRADE.
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:07 AM   #2302
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:09 AM   #2303
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I imagine Cards fans on this board love this deal as much as other Cards fans hate it.

Great return for a guy who might never bounce back (age 30, foot problems, dimiinishing returns for 3 straight years) and a SP who is the epitome of "JUST A GUY."

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Old 07-31-2014, 11:11 AM   #2304
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I imagine Cards fans on this board love this deal as much as other Cards fans hate it.

Great return for a guy who might never bounce back (age 30, foot problems, dimiinishing returns for 3 straight years) and a SP who is the epitome of "JUST A GUY."

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I don't see how you can't like it. Not only do you lose Craig's contract, you open up RF for Taveras (so the manager has to play him) and do away with Kelly who doesn't miss bats very well.

Fenway will eat him up.
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:16 AM   #2305
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LOVE THIS TRADE.
Seems like a good one on its face value.

Cardinal thinking assumptions?:

Wacha is done for the year.

Kelly will never get past 5 innings regularly and they can trade a relief guy.

Mo and Matheny differed on OT's playing time and Craig starting.

Craig is just not in a slump but they misjudged him and needed out from under that contract.

Team chemistry needed changing. Lester and AJ are not go along to get along players. Both will call out someone.
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Apparently this really "stunned" the clubhouse. They all really liked Craig and Kelly.

Seems pretty easy to me. Don't hit .210 with shitty power numbers and shitty every other number you can imagine, or be an average pitcher or you might get traded.

Thanks for your service guys, good luck.
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I don't think this has anything to do with Wacha
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I don't see how you can't like it. Not only do you lose Craig's contract, you open up RF for Taveras (so the manager has to play him) and do away with Kelly who doesn't miss bats very well.

Fenway will eat him up.
The Cards fans I'm seeing freak out about it are not even freaking out about what happens if Craig returns to form (And becomes a .300/.500 SLG guy again).

They're freaking out about Joe Kelly because he had a (LUCKY) 2.67 ERA last despite, despite allowing almost 1.4 runners per inning and striking out practically no one.
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:19 AM   #2309
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The Cards fans I'm seeing freak out about it are not even freaking out about what happens if Craig returns to form (And becomes a .300/.500 SLG guy again).

They're freaking out about Joe Kelly because he had a (LUCKY) 2.67 ERA last despite, despite allowing almost 1.4 runners per inning and striking out practically no one.
Craig might do that, I doubt it, but he may.

But Kelly is the definition of average starting mlb pitcher.
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:20 AM   #2310
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Apparently this really "stunned" the clubhouse. They all really liked Craig and Kelly.

Seems pretty easy to me. Don't hit .210 with shitty power numbers and shitty every other number you can imagine, or be an average pitcher or you might get traded.

Thanks for your service guys, good luck.
they can continue to like him...If they want to play with him...get traded to Boston
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