2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

[alnorth]

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

[DeezNutz]

I think he'll "spend" but not to the level we want or think is necessary.

I expect a bump in payroll to around 70-75M next year. And we're all hoping for something closer to 85. I'll say this, if Guthrie is considered an "answer," I'm going to have a hard time not selling out.

[tk13]

I don't expect us to get above 90 either but I don't get where the uber pessimism comes from. We were spending around 80ish or above before dumping Meche and Guillen and the like. Maybe we won't get back there, I guess we'll see.

[stonedstooge]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I think he'll "spend" but not to the level we want or think is necessary.

I expect a bump in payroll to around 70-75M next year. And we're all hoping for something closer to 85. I'll say this, if Guthrie is considered an "answer," I'm going to have a hard time not selling out.

They better not blow it now after they finally have this many pieces of the puzzle, and have them tied to the team for what 3-4 years?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by tk13

I don't expect us to get above 90 either but I don't get where the uber pessimism comes from. We were spending around 80ish or above before dumping Meche and Guillen and the like. Maybe we won't get back there, I guess we'll see.

We need 2.5 million fans to have a payroll of 85 million. Moore's words, not mine.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

We need 2.5 million fans to have a payroll of 85 million. Moore's words, not mine.

Well that's a ****ing pipedream. How about they put a winning team on the field first? I hate to break it to Mr. Glass but generally in sports it doesn't go "you show up and give me the money then I'll put a winner on the field for you". Contrary to his beliefs.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I think he'll "spend" but not to the level we want or think is necessary.

I expect a bump in payroll to around 70-75M next year. And we're all hoping for something closer to 85. I'll say this, if Guthrie is considered an "answer," I'm going to have a hard time not selling out.

Yeah. The beauty of it is that even if they're only bumping the payroll by $15 million, they can devote a ton of that to pitching.

Sanchez/Guthrie: $7 million
Yuni: $2 million
Broxton: $4 million
Soria: $6 million

All of that salary should be off the books and those spots should and can be filled with cheaper in-house options.

They will have the money to sign two FA pitchers of quality in the offseason without blowing their salary ceiling.

Win a bit and see what happens with the attendance, Mr. Glass. Then bump up the payroll again.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Yeah. The beauty of it is that even if they're only bumping the payroll by $15 million, they can devote a ton of that to pitching.

Sanchez/Guthrie: $7 million
Yuni: $2 million
Broxton: $4 million
Soria: $6 million

All of that salary should be off the books and those spots should and can be filled with cheaper in-house options.

They will have the money to sign two FA pitchers of quality in the offseason without blowing their salary ceiling.

Win a bit and see what happens with the attendance, Mr. Glass. Then bump up the payroll again.

This is a good point. Should be able to get two guys in the 10-13 range with a modest payroll bump.

OK. I'm sticking with this positive thought for the rest of the night.

[Demonpenz]

From what I have heard this rebuild has failed and now they are looking to dump payroll, but with a new Downtown ball park they can compete.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

From what I have heard this rebuild has failed and now they are looking to dump payroll, but with a new Downtown ball park they can compete.

I've heard they're going to play at Power and Light. The stage will be home plate. There are concerns Getz won't be able to get the ball to the right field fence(Shark Bar); his warning track power will surely land by the DJ on the staircase.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

We need 2.5 million fans to have a payroll of 85 million. Moore's words, not mine.

They got to 81 a couple years ago. I bet Glass will go to 85-90 if the situation is right. But I didn't think they'd go to 80, so maybe they'll go above 90 too.

All of this stuff is pointless really if you don't spend it wisely. I'd rather they spend 65 and be smart than spend 90 on crap like Guillen just to keep the fans off Glass.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

This is a good point. Should be able to get two guys in the 10-13 range with a modest payroll bump.

OK. I'm sticking with this positive thought for the rest of the night.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by tk13

They got to 81 a couple years ago. I bet Glass will go to 85-90 if the situation is right. But I didn't think they'd go to 80, so maybe they'll go above 90 too.

All of this stuff is pointless really if you don't spend it wisely. I'd rather they spend 65 and be smart than spend 90 on crap like Guillen just to keep the fans off Glass.

tk calling for DM to be fired.

[Deberg_1990]

Royals fans, you got your All Star Game, what more do you want?


Signed Glass....

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

I want to take a shit in the mouths of the Glass family.

Back of the line

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo

I've heard they're going to play at Power and Light. The stage will be home plate. There are concerns Getz won't be able to get the ball to the right field fence(Shark Bar); his warning track power will surely land by the DJ on the staircase.

oh crap. Trumbo is going to hit one off of angels rock bar.