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ArrowheadHawk · 08:13 PM

#1 Seed South Region (31-5,14-4,5-0)

Roster

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Non-Con Schedule

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Conference Schedule

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Post Season
Thu, March 14 TT at Kansas (W 91-63)
Fri, March 15 Iowa State at Kansas (W 88-73)
Sat, March 15 Kansas State at Kansas (W 70-54)
Fri, March 22 (16)Western Kentucky vs (1)Kansas (W 64-57)
Sun, March 24 (8)UNC vs (1)Kansas (W 70-58)
Fri, March 29 (4)Michigan at (1)Kansas Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, TX 6:37PM

Bambi · 03-11-2013, 08:59 AM

Mac and Withey both make 1st team Big 12.

Withey is Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year for the 2nd straight year.

Marcus Smart takes Big 12 Player of the Year.

Crazy that KU lands two guys on the first team the year after losing 2 NBA picks.

**Lzen** · 03-11-2013, 08:59 AM

Saturday, March 9, 2013
Keegan

Opinion: KU’s edge missing against Baylor

By Tom Keegan

Photo by Mike Yoder
The KU bench watches the final seconds of KU's 81-58 loss to the Baylor Bears Saturday in Waco.

The ghost of Peter (Arness) Graves popped into my head and told me Saturday night that my mission, should I decide to accept it, is to try to make Jayhawk Nation feel as if Saturday’s shellacking at the hands of a Baylor team that had lost five of its previous six games isn’t cause for concern heading into the Big 12 tournament, an entertaining bridge to the best event in all of sports.

OK. Here goes:

Had Kansas won Saturday, instead of losing 81-58 at Ferrell Center — where Baylor coach Scott Drew went onto the floor, took the microphone and told the students to storm the court after security personnel had lined them up neatly — and then won the Big 12 tournament, it would have had to finish the season with a 17-game winning streak to win the national championship.

Really now, does this or any other team in this season of parity that faces power-conference opposition nightly strike you as one capable of winning 17 games in a row? No? Not helping?

OK, consider then that every team gets really unlucky once in a while and runs into a player who for the first time in his life shoots as he never had before in a game. Six seasons ago, Marchello Vealy made seven of eight three-pointers to lead Oral Roberts to an early season upset of Kansas in Allen Fieldhouse. Vealy had made one of 13 threes the previous season.
Cory Jefferson, one of those long leapers who loves to power dunk that Baylor always seems to have, had attempted seven three-pointers in his career before Saturday and missed them all. He shot three in this rout and made them all on the way to matching his career high with 25 points. The odds of something like that happening to Kansas again this month are astronomical, so it’s good the Jayhawks got that bad-luck bite out of their systems.

None of that worked, did it? OK, how about trying the truth, which is where Kansas coach Bill Self will go with his players, with whom he clinched a share of his ninth consecutive Big 12 title Saturday because Kansas State lost at Oklahoma State.

The truth is for Kansas to have any shot of making it to Atlanta for the Final Four, it must play with a sharp edge, an in-your-face competitive spirit. That was nowhere to be found Saturday, except from the opposition.

It was clear which team was in single-elimination mode and which had clinched something earlier in the day.

Thrashing Kansas the way it did drove Baylor from a seat on the wrong side of the NCAA Tournament bubble to the right side. In recent seasons, Baylor has resembled NBA teams in more ways than having high-leaping long bodies all over the place. The Bears (18-13, 9-9) tend to play with an NBA regular-season jog during conference play and pump it up to another speed in the postseason and twice have advanced to the Elite Eight under Scott Drew.

When locked in and turned up, Kansas can look fast, quick, explosive and anchored by a beast of a shot-blocking defender.

When he’s tuned in, senior power forward Kevin Young disrupts opponents with hustle and explosiveness and spurs teammates to greater heights. When he’s at less than his best, such as Saturday, he looks too frail to play with the heavyweights, too unskilled to merit playing time.

Point guards Elijah Johnson and Naadir Tharpe had been playing so well until Saturday. One game does not a regression make, but it served as a reminder of just how ordinary Kansas can look without the point guards collapsing the defense.

KU’s seven-game winning streak ended. The streak started after a three-game losing streak that started with a home-court loss to Oklahoma State.

How tough will it be for the team to put this one behind it and start anew?
“I don’t know because I thought when we lost to Oklahoma State, I thought we’d react fine, and we didn’t react very well to that,” Self said. “I may take a little different approach this time. I’m not sure what yet. The bottom line is our second season is done. Everybody’s is done. Now the third season starts and everybody’s starting fresh. I can’t imagine we won’t be fresh and excited and confident moving forward.”

He also put it this way: “We got punched in the mouth today without question, but we’ll get up.”

If hearing a coach who has won nine consecutive Big 12 titles say that doesn’t make you feel better, I’m out of ideas.

**Old Dog** · 03-11-2013, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

First team we run up against in the tourney that can shoot from the outside and has decent guards. They will kick the shit out of Kansas.

From my perspective they're truly "capable of anything". That runs the complete gauntlet from cutting down the nets in Atlanta to being the first #1 to lose to a #16.

All BS from the past few days aside, this isn't intended as "talking shit". I really believe that on a given night they truly are capable of beating or losing to anyone.

Ceej · 03-11-2013, 09:10 AM

The Liberty Flames tied the 2007-2008 Coppin State team for most losses for a team entering the NCAA Tournament.

We all know how that tournament concluded!

Prison Bitch · 03-11-2013, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog

All BS from the past few days aside, this isn't intended as "talking shit". I really believe that on a given night they truly are capable of beating or losing to anyone.

Except for K-state.

Reerun_KC · 03-11-2013, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Except for K-state.

Well they did beat TCU...

Unlike Kansas...

FishingRod · 03-11-2013, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Well they did beat TCU...

Unlike Kansas...

To be fair they did beat them the next time

Sat, Feb. 23 TCU at Kansas (W 74-48)

Prison Bitch · 03-11-2013, 09:41 AM

KU scoring margin in conf: +9.7
KSU scoring margin conf: +6.3

Scoring Margin
## Team G OFF DEF Margin
----------------------------------------------
1.Kansas.............. 18 72.4 62.8 +9.7
2.Oklahoma State...... 18 73.6 66.2 +7.3
3.Kansas State........ 18 70.1 63.7 +6.3
4.Iowa State.......... 18 78.7 73.6 +5.1
5.Oklahoma............ 18 73.6 69.1 +4.5
6.Baylor.............. 18 70.5 66.1 +4.4
7.West Virginia....... 18 64.1 68.0 -3.9
8.Texas............... 18 67.1 71.1 -4.0
9.TCU................. 18 53.3 67.9 -14.7
10.Texas Tech.......... 18 58.4 73.1 -14.7

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 03-11-2013, 10:03 AM

enjoy fellas, you earned it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVP1Z5JqyV0

Imon Yourside · 03-11-2013, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

enjoy fellas, you earned it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVP1Z5JqyV0

Al Czervik · 03-11-2013, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

enjoy fellas, you earned it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVP1Z5JqyV0

Looks like your hook needs some sharpening Mikey......

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-11-2013, 11:02 AM

JayhawkSlant‏@JayhawkSlant

Jayhawks come in at 6th in latest USA Today/Coaches Poll

Prison Bitch · 03-11-2013, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

JayhawkSlant‏@JayhawkSlant

Jayhawks come in at 6th in latest USA Today/Coaches Poll

Right where Sagarin has em!

Braincase · 03-11-2013, 02:25 PM

I'm reminded of the expression, "To be the man, you have to beat the man."

Never heard anybody say "To be the man, you have to avoid losing to so and so".

KU and KSU are at the top of the standings of the Big 12. Which one is "the man"?

Reerun_KC · 03-11-2013, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braincase

I'm reminded of the expression, "To be the man, you have to beat the man."

Never heard anybody say "To be the man, you have to avoid losing to so and so".

KU and KSU are at the top of the standings of the Big 12. Which one is "the man"?

I would say the one that didnt get its ass whipped in Ft Worth on a mid Feb evening....

You lose to TCU, you dont deserve it...

10-16-2012, 06:41 PM
ArrowheadHawk Rock Chalk! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Casino cash: $8014961	** OFFICIAL 2012-2013 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread #1 Seed South Region (31-5,14-4,5-0) Roster Spoiler! 1 Naadir Tharpe Guard 5-11 170 So. 2 Rio Adams Guard 6-3 190 Fr. 3 Andrew White III Guard 6-6 210 Fr. 4 Justin Wesley Forward 6-9 220 RS Jr. 5 Jeff Withey Center 7-0 235 RS Sr. 10 Evan Manning Guard 6-3 170 Fr. 11 Tyler Self Guard 6-2 165 Fr. 15 Elijah Johnson Guard 6-4 195 Sr. 20 Niko Roberts Guard 5-11 175 Jr. 21 Christian Garrett Guard 6-3 185 So. 23 Ben McLemore Guard 6-5 195 RS Fr. 24 Travis Releford Guard 6-6 210 RS Sr. 31 Jamari Traylor Forward 6-8 220 RS Fr. 32 Zach Peters Forward 6-9 240 Fr. 33 Landen Lucas Forward 6-10 240 Fr. 34 Perry Ellis Forward 6-8 225 Fr. 40 Kevin Young Forward 6-8 190 Sr. Non-Con Schedule Spoiler! Fri, Nov. 9 SE Missouri State at Kansas (W 74-55) Tue, Nov. 13 Michigan St. at Kansas Atlanta, Ga. (L 64-67) Thu, Nov. 15 UTC at Kansas (W 69-55) Mon, Nov. 19 Washington State at Kansas Sprint Center (W 78-41) Tue, Nov. 20 St. Louis at Kansas Sprint Center (W 73-59) Mon, Nov. 26 SJSU at Kansas (W 70-57) Fri, Nov. 30 Oregon State at Kansas (W 84-78) Sat, Dec. 8 Colorado at Kansas (W 90-54) Sat, Dec. 15 Belmont at Kansas (W 89-60) Tue, Dec. 18 Richmond at Kansas (W 87-59) Sat, Dec. 22 Kansas at Ohio St. (W 74-66) Sat, Dec. 29 American at Kansas (W 89-57) Sun, Jan. 6 Temple at Kansas (W 69-62) Conference Schedule Spoiler! Wed, Jan. 9 Iowa State at Kansas (W 97-89 ) Sat, Jan. 12 Kansas at TT (W 60-46) Mon, Jan. 14 Baylor at Kansas (W 61-44) Sat, Jan. 19 Kansas at Texas (W 64-59) Tue, Jan. 22 Kansas at Kansas State (W 59-55) Sat, Jan. 26 Oklahoma at Kansas (W 67-54) Mon, Jan. 28 Kansas at West Virginia (W 61-56) Sat, Feb. 2 Okla. St. at Kansas (L 80-85) Wed, Feb. 6 Kansas at TCU (L 55-62) Sat, Feb. 9 Kansas at Oklahoma (L 66-72) Mon, Feb. 11 Kansas State at Kansas (W 83-62) Sat, Feb. 16 Texas at Kansas (W 73-47) Wed, Feb. 20 Kansas at Okla. St. (W 68-67) Sat, Feb. 23 TCU at Kansas (W 74-48) Mon, Feb. 25 Kansas at Iowa State (W 108-96) Sat, March 2 West Virginia at Kansas (W 91-65) Mon, March 4 TT at Kansas (W 79-42) Sat, March 9 Kansas at Baylor (L 58-81) Post Season** Thu, March 14 TT at Kansas (W 91-63) Fri, March 15 Iowa State at Kansas (W 88-73) Sat, March 15 Kansas State at Kansas (W 70-54) Fri, March 22 (16)Western Kentucky vs (1)Kansas (W 64-57) Sun, March 24 (8)UNC vs (1)Kansas (W 70-58) Fri, March 29 (4)Michigan at (1)Kansas Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, TX 6:37PM Last edited by ArrowheadHawk; 03-26-2013 at 08:13 PM..
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03-11-2013, 08:59 AM	#5311
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03-11-2013, 08:59 AM	#5312
Lzen Supporter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Jan Quadrant Vincent 16 Casino cash: $2310692	Saturday, March 9, 2013 Keegan Opinion: KU’s edge missing against Baylor By Tom Keegan Photo by Mike Yoder The KU bench watches the final seconds of KU's 81-58 loss to the Baylor Bears Saturday in Waco. The ghost of Peter (Arness) Graves popped into my head and told me Saturday night that my mission, should I decide to accept it, is to try to make Jayhawk Nation feel as if Saturday’s shellacking at the hands of a Baylor team that had lost five of its previous six games isn’t cause for concern heading into the Big 12 tournament, an entertaining bridge to the best event in all of sports. OK. Here goes: Had Kansas won Saturday, instead of losing 81-58 at Ferrell Center — where Baylor coach Scott Drew went onto the floor, took the microphone and told the students to storm the court after security personnel had lined them up neatly — and then won the Big 12 tournament, it would have had to finish the season with a 17-game winning streak to win the national championship. Really now, does this or any other team in this season of parity that faces power-conference opposition nightly strike you as one capable of winning 17 games in a row? No? Not helping? OK, consider then that every team gets really unlucky once in a while and runs into a player who for the first time in his life shoots as he never had before in a game. Six seasons ago, Marchello Vealy made seven of eight three-pointers to lead Oral Roberts to an early season upset of Kansas in Allen Fieldhouse. Vealy had made one of 13 threes the previous season. Cory Jefferson, one of those long leapers who loves to power dunk that Baylor always seems to have, had attempted seven three-pointers in his career before Saturday and missed them all. He shot three in this rout and made them all on the way to matching his career high with 25 points. The odds of something like that happening to Kansas again this month are astronomical, so it’s good the Jayhawks got that bad-luck bite out of their systems. None of that worked, did it? OK, how about trying the truth, which is where Kansas coach Bill Self will go with his players, with whom he clinched a share of his ninth consecutive Big 12 title Saturday because Kansas State lost at Oklahoma State. The truth is for Kansas to have any shot of making it to Atlanta for the Final Four, it must play with a sharp edge, an in-your-face competitive spirit. That was nowhere to be found Saturday, except from the opposition. It was clear which team was in single-elimination mode and which had clinched something earlier in the day. Thrashing Kansas the way it did drove Baylor from a seat on the wrong side of the NCAA Tournament bubble to the right side. In recent seasons, Baylor has resembled NBA teams in more ways than having high-leaping long bodies all over the place. The Bears (18-13, 9-9) tend to play with an NBA regular-season jog during conference play and pump it up to another speed in the postseason and twice have advanced to the Elite Eight under Scott Drew. When locked in and turned up, Kansas can look fast, quick, explosive and anchored by a beast of a shot-blocking defender. When he’s tuned in, senior power forward Kevin Young disrupts opponents with hustle and explosiveness and spurs teammates to greater heights. When he’s at less than his best, such as Saturday, he looks too frail to play with the heavyweights, too unskilled to merit playing time. Point guards Elijah Johnson and Naadir Tharpe had been playing so well until Saturday. One game does not a regression make, but it served as a reminder of just how ordinary Kansas can look without the point guards collapsing the defense. KU’s seven-game winning streak ended. The streak started after a three-game losing streak that started with a home-court loss to Oklahoma State. How tough will it be for the team to put this one behind it and start anew? “I don’t know because I thought when we lost to Oklahoma State, I thought we’d react fine, and we didn’t react very well to that,” Self said. “I may take a little different approach this time. I’m not sure what yet. The bottom line is our second season is done. Everybody’s is done. Now the third season starts and everybody’s starting fresh. I can’t imagine we won’t be fresh and excited and confident moving forward.” He also put it this way: “We got punched in the mouth today without question, but we’ll get up.” If hearing a coach who has won nine consecutive Big 12 titles say that doesn’t make you feel better, I’m out of ideas. __________________ If at first you don't succeed ...skydiving is not for you.
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03-11-2013, 09:10 AM	#5314
Ceej BOOM!1! Join Date: Aug 2004 Casino cash: $9545541	The Liberty Flames tied the 2007-2008 Coppin State team for most losses for a team entering the NCAA Tournament. We all know how that tournament concluded!
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03-11-2013, 09:41 AM	#5318
Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	KU scoring margin in conf: +9.7 KSU scoring margin conf: +6.3 Scoring Margin ## Team G OFF DEF Margin ---------------------------------------------- 1.Kansas.............. 18 72.4 62.8 +9.7 2.Oklahoma State...... 18 73.6 66.2 +7.3 3.Kansas State........ 18 70.1 63.7 +6.3 4.Iowa State.......... 18 78.7 73.6 +5.1 5.Oklahoma............ 18 73.6 69.1 +4.5 6.Baylor.............. 18 70.5 66.1 +4.4 7.West Virginia....... 18 64.1 68.0 -3.9 8.Texas............... 18 67.1 71.1 -4.0 9.TCU................. 18 53.3 67.9 -14.7 10.Texas Tech.......... 18 58.4 73.1 -14.7
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03-11-2013, 10:03 AM	#5319
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03-11-2013, 11:02 AM	#5322
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03-11-2013, 02:25 PM	#5324
Braincase Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Pond> Me <Barn Casino cash: $11298284	I'm reminded of the expression, "To be the man, you have to beat the man." Never heard anybody say "To be the man, you have to avoid losing to so and so". KU and KSU are at the top of the standings of the Big 12. Which one is "the man"? __________________ BrainCase
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