Star Wars Story: Han Solo Movie 2018 Spoiler Thread

[DaneMcCloud]

http://www.starwars.com/news/donald-...and-alone-film

Donald Glover is officially a young Lando Calrissian!

Lucasfilm announced today that Donald Glover, an acclaimed actor, award-winning writer, and Grammy-nominated artist, will be playing the part of Lando Calrissian in the still-untitled Han Solo Star Wars film, helmed by directors Phil Lord and Christopher Miller. Glover will join Alden Ehrenreich — previously cast as Han Solo — in bringing two iconic Star Wars characters back to the big screen, but at a time in their lives previously unexplored. This new film depicts Lando in his formative years as a scoundrel on the rise in the galaxy’s underworld — years before the events involving Han, Leia, and Darth Vader in The Empire Strikes Back and his rise to Rebel hero in Return of the Jedi.

“We’re so lucky to have an artist as talented as Donald join us,” said Lord and Miller. “These are big shoes to fill, and an even bigger cape, and this one fits him perfectly, which will save us money on alterations. Also, we’d like to publicly apologize to Donald for ruining Comic-Con for him forever.”

Glover is best known for creating and starring in the critically acclaimed FX series Atlanta (which had the highest premiere numbers for any basic cable comedy show since 2013), as well as for starring in four seasons of the show Community, and for his Grammy-nominated album Because the Internet, performed under the name Childish Gambino. In addition, Glover appeared in the Academy Award-nominated The Martian, and will be seen in the upcoming Spider-Man: Homecoming.

The untitled Han Solo movie is set for release in 2018.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

This, the only way to save the continuity is a total retcon, because my interest in franchise is gone.

Originally Posted by BigRichard

I am done with the entire "The Force is Female" bs too.

Fisher's dead, Ford doesn't want to come back, and there's only so much you can do with Hamill at this point.

They shit all over what made Star Wars great in the first place, and they've turned it into the adventures of Pippi Skywalker. Whatever they try at this point, it's not going to be Star Wars, because they blew the chance to pass the torch in a manner that would allow the story line to sensibly continue.

[InChiefsHeaven]

I'm done, and I'm not even that mad about it anymore. I'm sick of Star Wars, they've completely taken it from a cool niche thing that I grew up with and turned it into a huge pile of stuff that I just don't care about. I'm sick of light sabers. They used to be cool but now they're just boring.

Get off my lawn!!

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Taking huge risks doesn’t automatically translate into “good.”

I know you’re not saying that exactly, but I hear that frequently as the implied reason people should give Rian a pass. The problems with the movie are numerous and could have been mitigated by a better director.

The fact that he is now calling people who don’t like his movie names and implying they must be motivated by politics rather than wanting a good film that isn’t filled with stupidness is just insulting. The guy is full of himself and frankly, if Disney goes forward with his movies, I (and many others) won’t be watching them.

I'll disagree with your final paragraph. What happened, what continues to happen is actually the reverse. I love that he's speaking out against these idiots and standing up for his cast and crew. We need more people like him doing the same. He isn't attacking "people who don't like his movies" he's attacking people who are attacking him, the actors, other fans, and behaving reprehencibly. The people he's talking to are shitty people.

And obviously, there is a political motivation to it. Just look at this thread alone. It's rampant. The bullshit political bend that the opposition is insistent upon is a large part of why we're even having this conversation.

Obviously, there are plenty of people who don't like the movie for totally valid reasons. He's not calling out and/or attacking those people. No one at Disney/Lucasfilm is. Art is subjective. I like some things you hate and visa versa, I'm sure. People won't ever 100% agree on anything artistic because it can't be done. I respect people's opinions when they are well informed and well articulated. I don't respect bullying Kelly Marie Tran or Daisy Ridley or John Boyega.

As you said, taking risks doesn't automatically make something good. I agree with that completely. I happen to think TLJ is really ****ing good. It's my second favorite Star Wars film, so far. Part of what I like about it is that it took risks. But it's not a perfect film. It's flawed, like all the Star Wars movies. It swings and misses, just like all the Star Wars movies. But I have difficulting seeing what so many others see, that the film somehow shit all over Star Wars and betrayed fans. That I have a hard to with. I just don't see that at all. To me, The Last Jedi is inherently Star Wars.

I'm sure if Rian is able to make his movies, many won't watch them. But many will. I, for one, am really looking forward to those films and I'll be disappointed if they don't get made. These movies are never going to please everyone. And that's okay. There's plenty of room in Star Wars for everyone. You'll like some of it, you won't like some of it.

But rooting for it fail, bullying actors off of social media, hurling toxicity at each other, bragging about how poorly a movie performs and generally taking joy in ripping joy away from others is awful, disgusting behavior. I'm not accusing you personally of any of that, but you can't deny it's out there. Other posters have literally said as much in this and other Star Wars threads. And I can't wrap my head around that.

These are a bunch of cheesy, campy, pulpy space opera stories that go "pew pew" and maybe make us smile from time to time. It's just not worth the vitriol and ugliness.

Movies are a business. I get that. And Lucasfilm wants people to want to see their movies, to make as much money as possible. I also get that. And I understand how naive it sounds... but I truly believe these artists don't own fans anything. I'm sorry, they just don't. The artists involved have every right to make their movie, their way, without being held hostage by a fanbase that's never going to agree on anything anyway.

Old fans will fall away. New fans will join the ranks. That's how this is going to go. If Disney doesn't understand that, if they plan on "negotiating with terrorists" (so to speak) then the franchise will be life-less and meaningless in a few years.

[JohnnyV13]

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

I'll disagree with your final paragraph. What happened, what continues to happen is actually the reverse. I love that he's speaking out against these idiots and standing up for his cast and crew. We need more people like him doing the same. He isn't attacking "people who don't like his movies" he's attacking people who are attacking him, the actors, other fans, and behaving reprehencibly. The people he's talking to are shitty people.

And obviously, there is a political motivation to it. Just look at this thread alone. It's rampant. The bullshit political bend that the opposition is insistent upon is a large part of why we're even having this conversation.

Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson admitted THEY had political agendas. Inserting politics in any Star Wars movie is a bad idea. The original trilogy came 3 years after Watergate, 2 years after the fall of Vietnam, and feminists were pushing ERA. It was a VERY divided time. And NO ONE came out of the original trilogy talking about contemporary politics.

If anything, Star Wars was a unifying force because its underlying mythos was about restoring the Republic against an evil authoritarian Empire. Gosh, sort of like the same underlying reason behind the foundation of our country mixed up with our then current cold war adversary.

The fembot was clearly spouting feminist rhetoric and thus associated droid oppression with current rhetoric about female oppression. Whether the politics are right or wrong, stirring it up is simply bad business.

If racism and misogyny were so rampant in the sci/fi geek fanbase, why are many of the same people packing theaters to see Wonder Woman and Black Panther? Star Trek and Star Wars enjoy a huge crossover audience. And, diversity has been built into Star Trek for more than 50 years. Why weren't people complaining then, if they were so toxic?

Star Trek's interracial kiss didn't seem like a race lecture, it made perfect sense to the story. Uhura being black was simply incidental to a sound story. Obviously bolted on political service comes across like lecturing, especially since it's a fanbase that wasn't bigoted to begin with.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson admitted THEY had political agendas. Inserting politics in any Star Wars movie is a bad idea. The original trilogy came 3 years after Watergate, 2 years after the fall of Vietnam, and feminists were pushing ERA. It was a VERY divided time. And NO ONE came out of the original trilogy talking about contemporary politics.

If anything, Star Wars was a unifying force because it's underlying mythos was about restoring the Republic against an evil authoritarian Empire. Gosh, sort of like the same underlying reason behind the foundation of our country mixed up with our then current cold war adversary.

The fembot was clearly spouting feminist rhetoric and thus associated droid oppression with current rhetoric about female oppression. Whether the politics are right or wrong, stirring it up is simply bad business.

I'm with you. Besides being tired of Star Wars, I knew when the abhorrent prequels were released that the were trying to make some statement against the Bush Administration, hence all the Palpatine Votes Republican bumper stickers. The prequels were all about politics, a horribly written romance, a stupid character in a bunny suit, and neato over the top special effects. That's why I was so looking forward to TFA. And I did like it though it was an obvious reboot. Then they took all of the give a shit out of me after TLJ...and yeah, I'm just not excited about it anymore. The politics are a part of the problem for me, but on the whole I'm just sick of it.

[BigCatDaddy]

I know everyone loved Rogue One but I pretty much checked out of the movie half way through because of the heavy political sentiments involved.

[Red Brooklyn]

If the internet had taught me anything, it's that these conversations are fruitless. I read your posts and I'll just leave it with a respectful disagreement and encourage you to think more about our current climate. That's where your answers are. It's not as black and white as "no one complained then..."

But I'm not going to get into a fruitless fight. We have different worldviews and understandings. And no amount of screaming into the void is likely to move the needle.

Thanks for the replies.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I know everyone loved Rogue One but I pretty much checked out of the movie half way through because of the heavy political sentiments involved.

Go back and finish it. Trust me on this.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

If the internet had taught me anything, it's that these conversations are fruitless. I read your posts and I'll just leave it with a respectful disagreement and encourage you to think more about our current climate. That's where your answers are. It's not as black and white as "no one complained then..."

But I'm not going to get into a fruitless fight. We have different worldviews and understandings. And no amount of screaming into the void is likely to move the needle.

Thanks for the replies.

Just my .02 - I've said it many times before in this thread and the TLJ thread....I thought TLJ was a good enough movie in and of itself (the cinematography was really amazing), but paired with the other seven it's a catastrophe. There is just absolutely no feel of continuity from the jump; it would be like if you were watching a string of Marvel movies set on Earth 616, then all of a sudden you're in the middle of a storyline from Earth 1610 in the 8th movie in the line of three trilogies.


And I think Kelly Marie Tran was absolutely and completely miscast in TLJ, but I don't think for a minute she deserves any of the harassment she's received on the web. She did the best with what she was given, and she was given a character and an arc that should never have been thought up in the first place. That's not her fault, though. People are just assholes.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Go back and finish it. Trust me on this.

I watched it all the way through. I ust mentally got hung up on the old white guys are evil theme and that ruined it for me. I spent the last hour debating to leave or stay.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I watched it all the way through. I ust mentally got hung up on the old white guys are evil theme and that ruined it for me. I spent the last hour debating to leave or stay.

At least you got to see the crescendo battle. That made all the subtle crap manageable, for me anyway.

I felt the same in regards to the rebel general that told Cassian to kill Galen and ordered the hit on Eadu. It felt like they were making him the bad guy but when in reality he was doing what he absolutely thought needed to be done when nobody else had the balls to.

[BigCatDaddy]

Nails it
https://www.dailywire.com/news/31712...ign=benshapiro

[Just Passin' By]

And it's the evil customers at fault again.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhug.../#56689b1a3b10

Kennedy, naturally, must be defended

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme.../#32f38bb3723c

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

And it's the evil customers at fault again.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhug.../#56689b1a3b10

Kennedy, naturally, must be defended

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme.../#32f38bb3723c

JFC

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[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

And it's the evil customers at fault again.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhug.../#56689b1a3b10

Kennedy, naturally, must be defended

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme.../#32f38bb3723c

keep ripping on the fans, the franchise is taking a severe financial hit and it will hold true because of articles such as this