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Old 10-07-2014, 11:12 PM  
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So, uh... Calvin Johnson anyone?
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The end could be coming for Calvin Johnson in Detroit
Posted by Mike Florio on October 7, 2014, 11:13 PM EDT

Ndamukong Suh may not be the only top-two pick who could soon be bidding Detroit farewell.

With Suh, the second overall pick in 2010, poised to hit the open market in March, the Lions likewise could decide to tell Calvin Johnson, the second overall pick in 2007, to hit the road at about the same time.

Crazy as it seems, Johnson carries a cap number of $20.558 million into the next league year. While a restructuring that converts, for example, $10 million of his $12.5 million salary into a signing bonus could cut the cap number down to $12.558 million, the maneuver would drive his 2016 cap number of $24 million up to $26 million.

At some point, Johnson may have to take less money in order to stick around. If he doesn’t want to do that, the Lions may have to part ways with him.

Johnson’s health will be a major factor in the final analysis. While he has missed only seven games in seven-plus seasons, Johnson lately seems to be always injured, always either missing practice or limited. And always questionable to play. Currently, he’s dealing with a chronic ankle injury that may cause him to miss a game or two.

No matter good Johnson may be when healthy, at some point the total analysis will point to spending that money elsewhere.

The fact that the Lions seemed to be interested in trading up from No. 10 to get receiver Sammy Watkins or receiver Mike Evans and ultimately decided to use that pick on hybrid tight end/receiver Eric Ebron (who has only eight catches for 80 yards this season) suggests that the Lions are at least considering the wisdom of reallocating their dollars away from a guy who is one of the best receivers in league history when healthy, but who isn’t healthy enough often enough to justify a cap number that shoots from $13 million to more than $20 million in less than six months.
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Old 10-08-2014, 06:21 PM   #76
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Old 10-08-2014, 06:26 PM   #77
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What does this mean??? The protection broke down is all I see.... No room to step up in the pocket...
I counted three WR's WIDE open on that play. Including one center of the field with a 30+ yard guaranteed gain.
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Old 10-08-2014, 06:27 PM   #78
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A lot of shitting on a QB who has a lower INT% than Alex Smith this year. I thought that was the sort of thing True Fans dug?
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Old 10-08-2014, 06:31 PM   #79
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Old 10-08-2014, 06:32 PM   #80
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A lot of shitting on a QB who has a lower INT% than Alex Smith this year. I thought that was the sort of thing True Fans dug?
Ohhhhh, they cherish low int. ratios the way Reid cherishes extra fries at the bottom of the bag.
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Old 10-08-2014, 06:39 PM   #81
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You never watched Marino play? What about Rivers? Rivers has the worst mechanics ever.
Release is quick though. People get caught up in throwing mechanics too much.

As long as the accuracy is repeatable and the release is quick, you can't spend a **** ton of time trying to correct that. Footwork + Balance is easier to correct but if you've got someone who throws like Leftwich where it takes a lifetime to get the ball ready, you're gonna have a bad time.

I mean, Favre had a ridiculous wind up but it was still a quick release. Rivers shot-puts the football and it comes out pretty quick. Not everyone has a perfect over the top release
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Old 10-08-2014, 07:03 PM   #82
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You never watched Marino play? What about Rivers? Rivers has the worst mechanics ever.

Marino was before my time but I wouldn't really say Rivers has bad mechanics, just an odd, side-armed release. He doesn't often attempt 40 yard throws in tight windows off his back foot the way Stafford has over the past 5 years.
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Old 10-08-2014, 07:32 PM   #83
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Release is quick though. People get caught up in throwing mechanics too much.

As long as the accuracy is repeatable and the release is quick, you can't spend a **** ton of time trying to correct that. Footwork + Balance is easier to correct but if you've got someone who throws like Leftwich where it takes a lifetime to get the ball ready, you're gonna have a bad time.

I mean, Favre had a ridiculous wind up but it was still a quick release. Rivers shot-puts the football and it comes out pretty quick. Not everyone has a perfect over the top release
I know. Just saying their mechanics are bad, doesn't mean I think they are/were bad QBs.
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Stafford's mechanics aren't bad, but lazy. He has a tendency to fall into bad habits, but his throwing motion, in and of itself, is fine.
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Marino was before my time but I wouldn't really say Rivers has bad mechanics, just an odd, side-armed release. He doesn't often attempt 40 yard throws in tight windows off his back foot the way Stafford has over the past 5 years.
No, Rivers' mechanics are awful. Some QBs don't need to look good doing it. Rivers certainly does not. Watch some video of Marino. He and Rivers' style are similar.
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Sorry folks, but you're just going to have to prepare yourself for Rivers-to-Megatron.
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He's not as good as Cutler and Stafford because he doesn't have abilities they have.

End of discussion.

He's about the 18th best QB in the NFL.
Yeah, he doesn't have a cannon arm.

That's the only ability Alex Smith lacks that they have.

Hootie is right, you can't evaluate QB's to save your ****ing life.
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I'm sure Clay's already posted the receiving stats of Crabtree and Davis in 2012 when Smith and Kaepernick started.

In 2003, Todd freaking PINKSTON was the leading receiver in yards with 575, with Missouri Southern State's finest James Thrash right behind him. It seems like a minor miracle TO had 1,200 considering Westbrook was right behind him with 700 as a HB and Pinkston with 650+.

There's absolutely no sense signing a guy like Megatron for this offense. It'd be a colossal waste of time for him and money for the Hunt family.
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