Water fasting + keto diet thread...

[Rausch]

I did a water fast for 10 days and lost 18 lbs.

(Note: I consulted my doctor and took vitamin/minearal and fiber supplements the whole time. )

I quit my fast last saturday and have been abiding the keto diet since then.

I had a full blood panel done before the fast/diet and will do another next week.

I wanted to do a 14 day fast but my body had absolutely no energy and quit by day 10 and a 1/2. After that started the slow transition back to eating.

As of today I've gained 2 lbs back which is not worth mentioning. Daily weight varies as much as 4 lbs and it's possible any added exercise will add muscle weight as well.

Just curious if anyone else has fasted and/or used this in conjunction with the keto diet...

[Titty Meat]

Why not eat the food you like while eating at a deficit and exercise? You might lose weight doing this but you'll put all of it back on.

[Bewbies]

My wife and I did the Whole 30 last month. Well, for me it was the Whole 16 cause I quit at a party with my friends.

That's a good way to go as well, gets all the fake shit out of your system. But it leaves you wanting in the food dept pretty badly.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay

Why not eat the food you like while eating at a deficit and exercise? You might lose weight doing this but you'll put all of it back on.

Eat well, exercise, repeat

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Frosty

I did a year of very low carb and lost a ton weight (200 lbs to 169). Out of the blue, I couldn't lose anymore and started regaining despite eating the same way I had when losing. I ended up regaining clear up to 225 lbs.

I was also constantly fatigued. I went to the doctor and found I had very low testosterone and very low thyroid. Well, it turns out very low carb diets are really bad for your thyroid (they mimic starvation, so your body compensates by dropping thyroid and jacking up cortisol). Despite being on thyroid meds and testosterone replacement, I am still having problems and every ****ing ounce is a huge battle.

I think your story is a shining example of why low carb diets are not what they are sold to be. Everything you said from what I have learned is 1000% true. Particularly the lack of energy. We get energy from carbs, not from protein.

I had to start TRT because I too had very low testosterone. And that is bad when you are trying to lose weight.

Now, my questions to you are:

1. What are you eating?
2. How often are you exercising?

Here is my routine and I find it very easy to stick with, I am getting great results and I feel like $5

Mornings M-F:
1. Wake up and mix some Orac-Greens powder and chug it. I hate veggies mostly so this is a suitable supplement.

2. Mix a up some Dymatize protein powder and drink that. Dymatize is the awesome

3. Eat 1 serving (1/2 cup) of oatmeal with a little truvia

Mid Morning:
Protein bar low in sugar or another Dyamatize protein powder mix

Lunch:
Always a salad, usually romain, with a few broccoli florets, shitaki mushrooms, few red grapes and few blue berries with a very low sugar and very small serving of dressing. Then I will have a turkey sandwicch (4oz of turkey) with 1 slice of swiss on whole wheat (not "made with" whole wheat)/ Remember, "made with" means it has bad carbs as well. Or I will have some tuna. You get the idea

Mid-Afternoon:
Protein bar, poweder or banana

When I get home:
Another Orac-Greens powder drink

Dinner:
small helping, about the size of my palm, of meat, with some brown rice. Or I will make some whole wheat pasta and have a link of turkey italian sausage with some sauce.

You get the idea here. Complex carbs at every meal.

If it is a lift night I might a 1.5 servings of rice or whatever complex carb I am eating or throw in a slice of good, whole wheat bread

Pre-lift workout:
Dymatize protein powder mix 30 min before

Post-lift workout:
Dyamaitze, a scoop of Karbolyn (awesome stuff) and a 1/2 teaspoon of creatine all mixed together

If I am doing just cardio then I skip the post workout drink except maybe I might have some protein powder

Couple things for you specifically:

1. Broccoli, mushrooms, grapes and dark berries among other things are great at boosting your testosterone naturally

2. Complex carbs are needed by your body to burn fat. The fat actually needs the carb. Complex carbs keep your insulin levels balanced, digest slowly which makes your metabolism work harder and provides you the lasting energy you need.

As Hama stated and most people are clueless about, your muscles burn carbs not fat, when you use them. If there are no carbs your body will catabolize the muscle defeating your entire goal. I take Karbolyn which is a new, 0 sugar, fast acting carb after I lift to replenish my glycogen stores in my muscles.

What I am noticing already, besides feeling a shit ton better, is my body is getting rid of the fat because it is realizing it doesn't need it. Your body stores fat for a reason and generally being lazy isn't the real reason. The real reason is what you're putting in your gut. The body will always adapt so if you are eating like shit and constantly spiking your blood sugar levels, etc, your body will compensate by storing fat, making you feel tired, etc.

When you are giving your body the proper fuels that it needs then it will adapt as well and start getting rid of the crap (fat) that it doesn't want nor no longer thinks it needs because it doesn't need it anymore.

I will say twice a day I take a men's multi, fish oil, glucosamine for joints, and magnesium because our soils today are shit and you aren't getting what you need. I take a zinc and potassium pill at lunch.

Zinc is also very important to your test levels as well.

So, in summary, to focus on your test levels along with your injections, think Zinc, veggies, saturated, yes I said saturated (within reason) and monounsaturated fats. Stay away from Polyunsaturated fats except fish. Also, lower the dairy, which kill sme because I live cheese. Stay away from soy products as well.

One thing you might consider is having your estrogen levels tested. People in TRT sometimes experience elevated estrogen levels and have to either take a prescription armotase inhibitor or get one (DIM) over the counter.

Hope this helps. Don't give up. I took test gels for 6 month and was in the same boat you sound like your'e in now. I finally switched to injections and did a lot of research and I feel ****ing fantastic. I am down 2 inches on my waist and I am wearing belts I haven't been able too in a long time.

One other thing...keep the exercise under 60 minutes. Long, extended workouts sound manly but they jack up your cortisol levels and that kills weight loss and test production.

[Danguardace]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

What's low carb for you? How many carbs a day are you staying under?

Do you have a calorie limit on your cheat day? Do you just stick under a certain amount and not care about your macros? And do you still fast for your cheat day?

My typical day:

Fast from 8pm

Morning work out (Cardio and weights)

Go to work

LUNCH Time Swim

First meal 2pm Salad with one of Chicken/Tuna/Hummus/Pepperoni etc + Protein shake which my main source of carbs 64g

GO Home

Last meal 6-7pm normally a meat with Broccoli or Mushrooms

Repeat.

I stick to 70-90 carbs obviously not going to attain ketosis but still a low number for my activity levels.

I do not count calories on Cheat days but try to stick to an eating window.

I do not track macros either

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by O.city

Eat well, exercise, repeat

Pretty vague

[BucEyedPea]

I fast once a week—sometimes 2 days. I have 70 ozs water and 20 ozs whole milk yogurt—or 20 ozs whole milk/milk substitute like hemp or almond milk.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay

Pretty vague

Actually it's not vague at all. Eat well, i.e. eat right, and exercise. And don't stop.

[petegz28]

Studies have shown a 24hr fast once a month or so is good to allow your liver to flush itself out. All the other shit is unhealthy and you are kicking the crap out of your body in all the wrong ways.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Actually it's not vague at all. Eat well, i.e. eat right, and exercise. And don't stop.

What does eating right entail?

[phisherman]

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay

What does eating right entail?

Less Baconators.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

I've lost 40 lbs in the last 7 weeks. All I did was go through a divorce.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by fan4ever

I know many have their success stories but this is what I've done for the past few years and have a net loss of 50 pounds as of this morning. Mon - Fri I eat a low carb diet...very low...but don't starve myself. Lots of protein, greens, but no fruits/sugars. A lot of hidden sugars out there.

Starting Friday night, I allow myself alcohol, but try to keep that low carb (diet coke and rum my choice of drink). On Saturday and Sundays, no restrictions although I try not to go wild. I LOVE IPA's so I treat myself to those on those days/nights, along with bread and other carb "no-no's". No rule book or fad dieting...just a SUSTAINABLE LIFESTYLE where I can net a couple of pounds or so every week.

I'll usually lose 5 LBS during the week and gain back 3 on the weekends.
I plateau from time to time, but I've stuck with it because it's not overly burdensome or an unrealistic way to LIVE. Hope this helps somebody.

This is where I'm at. The lifestyle change isn't THAT bad. I substitute lettuce for bread and stop my sugars. Plenty of avocados. Still eat as much watermelon I want. However, I don't have the urge for cheat days so in the last 3 months I've been on the low-carb/keto variant, I've had like 3-4 cheat days. Anywhere I go to eat out fast food I google restaurant keto.

example: Loc Cabos Keto... You mean to tell me I can have guacamole and the fajitas without the tortilla? Yes. I'll have THAT please!
Buffalo Wild Wings Keto... You mean to tell me, I can have a salad and as many Garlic Parmesan wings as I want? Yes! I'll have THAT please!

I think I've plateaued but the results are fine for me right now (15 lbs in the first month/down from 250) and I'm happy with where I'm at even if I have. Wore a pair of pants to work today that I haven't been able to wear in about 3 years.

[Danguardace]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

I fast once a week—sometimes 2 days. I have 70 ozs water and 20 ozs whole milk yogurt—or 20 ozs whole milk/milk substitute like hemp or almond milk.

A lot of conflicting advice out there about Milk. But it is low on GI index so doesn't raise blood sugar massively.

[Tribal Warfare]

3 days, lost 17 pounds on a pure water fast