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Old 02-11-2017, 02:23 PM  
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:28 AM   #901
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I would agree, but the thing that makes me wonder is the Banner angle. Banner has no memory of being on Sakaar for two years as Hulk, but immediately tells Strange and Co. in the Sanctorum that Thanos is coming as soon as he reverts back from Hulk? I'd say chances aren't that great, especially since they made such a production of telling us how Loki was dead and gone forever, but I wouldn't be shocked. And, that's not mentioning how Valkyrie, Korg, and half the Asgardians aren't among the destroyed ship, either. Hulk probably wanted to hang with his girl Valkyrie if she was put in charge of protecting the other half of the survivors.....
This is how I was looking at it. Why would Thor/Loki send Valkyrie by herself to guard half of Asgard? My assumption would be that Hulk was with her.
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:31 AM   #902
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Complete stretch.
I wouldn't even call it a stretch. Complete BS theory. Just one of the many holes is the scene where Banner is ported away from the fight with Squidward and he is by himself. He is trying to turn into the Hulk when nobody is around and arguing with the Hulk. A Loki Banner would not do that. BS theory.
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Old 08-21-2018, 12:03 PM   #903
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I'm not buying this Loki is dead dead. They have to bring back Star Lord, SpiderMan, Black Panther etc. why couldn't they bring back Loki? Cause he didn't turn to dust? Come on man....
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Old 08-21-2018, 02:37 PM   #904
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I wouldn't even call it a stretch. Complete BS theory. Just one of the many holes is the scene where Banner is ported away from the fight with Squidward and he is by himself. He is trying to turn into the Hulk when nobody is around and arguing with the Hulk. A Loki Banner would not do that. BS theory.
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Old 08-21-2018, 03:52 PM   #905
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I wouldn't even call it a stretch. Complete BS theory. Just one of the many holes is the scene where Banner is ported away from the fight with Squidward and he is by himself. He is trying to turn into the Hulk when nobody is around and arguing with the Hulk. A Loki Banner would not do that. BS theory.
And that's why I don't totally believe it. That line when he's in the suit and says "Hulk, we're going to have to come to an understanding" doesn't seem like something Loki would say to himself (unless of course he thought someone was listening over the comms, maybe?). Plus, with Banner and Hulk talking to each other, it opens up the possibility of us seeing Professor Hulk at some point....
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Old 08-21-2018, 07:46 PM   #906
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I'm not buying this Loki is dead dead. They have to bring back Star Lord, SpiderMan, Black Panther etc. why couldn't they bring back Loki? Cause he didn't turn to dust? Come on man....
Not that they won't bring him back....

But he was dead LONG before the snap. It's different with everyone you listed. They are gone because of the snap.


However, in my opinion, Loki will be back.
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Old 08-21-2018, 08:26 PM   #907
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I wouldn't even call it a stretch. Complete BS theory. Just one of the many holes is the scene where Banner is ported away from the fight with Squidward and he is by himself. He is trying to turn into the Hulk when nobody is around and arguing with the Hulk. A Loki Banner would not do that. BS theory.
Great point. I'm confident it's not some kind of Loki ruse. But I still believe that Loki will come back. Separate issues...
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Not that they won't bring him back....

But he was dead LONG before the snap. It's different with everyone you listed. They are gone because of the snap.


However, in my opinion, Loki will be back.
It's the MCU, just because he died first and not by the snap doesn't mean he cant be brought back by whatever plot device that Ant Man is going to down there with time. Or it will be some other plot device.

They are going to have an issue in the next movie anyone believing anyone is dead dead. Super heroes die and come back all the time. They just need to stay away from "dead" drama. There is plenty of other type sof drama to use in plots.
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The Russo's have already said why hulk wouldn't come out in IW.

According to the Russos, though, that's not how they saw it.

"A lot of people had interpreted that the Hulk was scared of Thanos. The Hulk has had his ass kicked before, and so it wasn’t like the minute he gets his ass kicked he’s going to run and hide. It’s really the notion that the Hulk and Banner have a very dysfunctional relationship, which was explored even further in Thor: Ragnarok. And I think that relationship is starting to strain between the two of them and the Hulk is not interested in playing the hero to Banner anymore," Joe Russo said. "I don’t know if the Hulk sees the value in the relationship. They both want to control Hulk’s body. The Hulk brings fighting and strength to the table and he’s not quite sure what Banner is bringing yet. So, I think this is becoming a stubborn push and pull between two very despaired personalities stuck in one body."

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The hulk buster suit in the rocks part of his theory holds no water either, since Thanos reversed time shortly after to bring back vision. At that point phasing him into the wall wouldn't have happened. Same reason Cap is walking around perfectly fine after Thanos kicked his ass.
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If Loki comes back it will be because they go back in time to the 1st Avengers film and possibly they change the course of history in a different reality or something I dont know, there are so many things that could happen. But it's going to involve time travel and the quantum realm. Captain Marvel movie probably won't tell us much except for some end credit scenes. But by then I imagine a teaser trailer for the A4 movie would be out.
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The Russo's have already said why hulk wouldn't come out in IW.

According to the Russos, though, that's not how they saw it.

"A lot of people had interpreted that the Hulk was scared of Thanos. The Hulk has had his ass kicked before, and so it wasn’t like the minute he gets his ass kicked he’s going to run and hide. It’s really the notion that the Hulk and Banner have a very dysfunctional relationship, which was explored even further in Thor: Ragnarok. And I think that relationship is starting to strain between the two of them and the Hulk is not interested in playing the hero to Banner anymore," Joe Russo said. "I don’t know if the Hulk sees the value in the relationship. They both want to control Hulk’s body. The Hulk brings fighting and strength to the table and he’s not quite sure what Banner is bringing yet. So, I think this is becoming a stubborn push and pull between two very despaired personalities stuck in one body."

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Vision isn't very good at fighting in this film. Especially for how powerful he showed himself to be in Avengers 2.
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Vision isn't very good at fighting in this film. Especially for how powerful he showed himself to be in Avengers 2.
Well, he did get ran through with that space spear in Amsterdam. He said it kept him from phasing, so he was basically pretty heavily wounded the entire film.

The thing that annoyed me was that not only did he have an Infinity Stone, but the space spear effectively deflected it. Vision should have vaporized them all with the power of the stone in his forehead, then effectively healed himself with it seeing as how he's an android. But, comic physics and such......
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Vision has been heavily nerfed in the MCU especially considering he's had an infinity stone.
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