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Old 08-16-2018, 12:31 PM  
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Bigot Eleazar; Child sex abuse in Protestant churches;not just with Catholic Churches

This sounds like a sweeping generality and the bold is a LIE. This is the face of a bigot.

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It's not just one diocese, one bishop, or one generation doing this. It's all across the entire church, for at least several generations - probably, going back through all times - that this has been covered up and the offenders systematically protected.

‘Spotlight’: It’s not just a Catholic problem

BTW, I thought it was a very good film.
Though I think everyone should watch this film, I especially think that my fellow Protestants can learn much from seeing it. However, learning will require a humility that enables us to be slow in pointing the finger at others, and quick to the difficult and sobering task of self-examination.

Some may be tempted to watch this film with disgust for the Catholic Church and a sigh of relief for Protestant churches. Such relief would be unfounded and misplaced.

A number of years ago, the three companies that insure most Protestant churches reported that receiving approximately 260 reports a year of minors being sexually abused by church leaders and members. This is compared to the approximately 228 “credible accusations” a year of child sexual abuse reported by the Catholic Church....

In reality, the likelihood is that more children are sexually abused in Protestant churches than in Catholic churches. Regardless, the abuse of one child is one child too many. Instead of pointing fingers, we should be learning from each other and working together to bring an end to this epidemic that permeates all of Christendom. In order to do this, Protestants are going to have to accept the fact that we have many more similarities than differences with our Catholic brothers and sisters when it comes to how we have failed to protect and serve God’s children. Here are just three that surfaced in “Spotlight”:...

https://religionnews.com/2015/12/07/...holic-problem/


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Old 08-16-2018, 02:52 PM   #16
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What a joke of a professor.

The Catholic Church will survive.
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:54 PM   #17
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You'll notice Cochise is ready to pounce on catholic priest abuse


But he is too scared to talk about Rabbi abuse, which is every bit as prevalent
Also, True.

In fact the article that sorted my out on this issue, was one written by a Jewish radio show host, author, political commentator, named Medved. He said similar percentages with rabbis too.

I have posted it recently because it seems to be gone from WND where it was originally years ago.
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:56 PM   #18
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Absolutely. Any organizations, religious or otherwise, that segregate themselves and refuse to yield authority of legal issues to "the state" vs having their own secret tribunals is going to be rife with abuse.
Like public school districts policy of "passing the trash?"
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:01 PM   #19
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Learned a new word tonight reading about this:
ephebophilia — homosexual attraction to adolescent boys

Not sure I can even pronounce it. I'll need to use one of those pronunciation gizmos online to be able to say it.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:19 PM   #20
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Absolutely. Any organizations, religious or otherwise, that segregate themselves and refuse to yield authority of legal issues to "the state" vs having their own secret tribunals is going to be rife with abuse. All their lives these kids are told that they don't live by goyem law and police are not to be trusted, and then are left helpless by those who should be stepping upto protect them.
Sure, but there's no high priest of Judaism or any other worldwide power structure where well-placed people up and down the line devoted themselves to covering this up and protecting the people doing it.

The Pittsburgh diocese where we are just now hearing about the child porn rings and decades of sexual abuse was covering up for and hiding 100 people that we know about. It was hardly an isolated incident, there have been dozens of diocese bankrupted by settlements. The local one went into chapter 11 several years ago after they had also been found to be protecting about a hundred pedophile priests.

Obviously you can find people of low character in any profession or religion or line of work, but to act like there's just as big of a problem among Southern Baptists or Missouri Synod Lutherans or whatever is ludicrious. The roman church as a whole has paid literally billions of dollars in settlements. Billions. Are there any major cities where there haven't been pedophilia settlements? Is there anywhere that this wasn't happening?
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:27 PM   #21
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Like public school districts policy of "passing the trash?"
Yes, absolutely. As stated before... I can completely buy that school districts have allowed things to happen and passed trash. Perhaps not 70+ years long but definitely allowed things to happen for FAR longer than they should have.

Lutherans have several Synods that are independently run by whomever they choose. A synod that allowed abuse to happen and ships off a dirty priest would absolutely be akin to a single school district with a policy of passing the trash.

I believe that the scale of the cover-up is what riles people up more than anything... not that they don't believe it doesn't happen anywhere else. It is like hearing that a greyhound bus drove off a bridge. If that bus is empty outside the driver then few people give a shit... but if it was packed full of people then it is a tragedy.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:29 PM   #22
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Sure, but there's no high priest of Judaism or any other worldwide power structure where well-placed people up and down the line devoted themselves to covering this up and protecting the people doing it.

The Pittsburgh diocese where we are just now hearing about the child porn rings and decades of sexual abuse was covering up for and hiding 100 people that we know about. It was hardly an isolated incident, there have been dozens of diocese bankrupted by settlements. The local one went into chapter 11 several years ago after they had also been found to be protecting about a hundred pedophile priests.

Obviously you can find people of low character in any profession or religion or line of work, but to act like there's just as big of a problem among Southern Baptists or Missouri Synod Lutherans or whatever is ludicrious. The roman church as a whole has paid literally billions of dollars in settlements. Billions. Are there any major cities where there haven't been pedophilia settlements? Is there anywhere that this wasn't happening?
I don't disagree with anything you said. I'm simply taking a different tone in this thread in hopes of having a conversation as opposed to a screaming match.
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Old 08-17-2018, 10:22 AM   #23
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Well... this thread was anti-climactic.
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I don't disagree with anything you said. I'm simply taking a different tone in this thread in hopes of having a conversation as opposed to a screaming match.
Someone called me a bigot, so I would say the tone was already very low on the tone scale.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:11 PM   #25
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Someone called me a bigot, so I would say the tone was already very low on the tone scale.
You saw the chat she and I had in the other thread. I'm just saying that I'm trying to be more conversational in this thread.

I don't disagree, again, with your post but, deserved or not, she called you a bigot... not me.
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